Texas liberals shamefully protest Perry's measures to safeguard women's health

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>DPS is no longer confiscating unopened tampons or other the like. Say the issue was earlier some were trying to bring USED ones in. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23txlege&amp;src=hash">#txlege</a></p>&mdash; Josh Rubin (@CNNExpress) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNExpress/statuses/355795734857134081">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Solution: a gun that shoots tampons.

Checkmate, Perry.

 

equating opposition to unlimited cradle-to-grave welfare to permitting the killing of the unborn is a poor attempt at moral equivalence

 

Well thank god for that! :grin: bleeding vaginas are dangerous

 

How about just from 20 weeks to 18 years? Feed em, give em health care and good schools.

 

Everybody seems to want to throw around abortion ideology in this thread. How about this? The bill as it is written will not pass muster under Planned Parenthood v. Casey. Not even close. I suspect Perry knows that. So he pitches a fit and calls a special session (which is very costly) to obtain passage of a bill that he knows will likely be struck down. Not very conservative financial management.

 

You know that, and I know that, but plenty of Texans seemingly don't know jack. Unreal. I'll be so glad when Perry's endless dog and pony show is in the rear view mirror in 18 months.

 

Costs a million dollars I believe? I think we can afford a million dollars...

 

No it's a ****ing great one. You use hyperbole to exaggerate feeding the hungry, giving prenatal care to the unborn, educating innocent children, etc because it costs money. Your stupid slogans don't cost a dime. You can run all day with your stupid slogans but you are missing in action when it comes to solving any actual problems. We have 45,000 people die every year because they dont have health care and the highest infant mortality rate in the industrialized world because doing something about that is unlimited cradle to grave welfare apparently. It's a disgusting disgrace. You're too full of it to be ashamed of yourself.

 

The point is that it is A MILLION DOLLARS. Fiscal conservatives would say that it is a frivolous and unnecessary expense. Those are funds that could either be put to other use or kept in surplus. If the surpluses become large enough, taxes could be lowered or other governmental obligations paid. By tossing around a million dollars on an impulse, it hinders the goal of fiscal conservatism.

 

So you hold the lives of the unborn hostage until the government provides a figure that YOU thing is reasonable? In regards to education, throwing billions of dollars at ISDs who continue to inefficiently run their districts and inadequately pay and retain good teachers, is NOT going to help those children. Of course we all want a better education system, and it's wrong to assume we don't. If you were able to fix every problem with a single bill, you would think that in the 168 years of being a state at least one of the parties would have realized it.

As for abortion, there have been many things that have been legal and deemed constitutional, but years later we look back and regret learn from. It's sad that women get in these situations, I do believe we should have more health care options, but I also believe we should address the reasons WHY they are in these situations in the first place -- education. We certainly need to address poverty in this country. I would prefer to address it with programs that allow people to lift THEMSELVES up, rather than throwing money at them and telling them to figure it out. We need policies that give people JOBS and allow THEM to make decisions that fit THEIR needs, which is the most efficient way. And for those who are in desperate situations, we should have the adequate safety net to ensure that no one goes hungry, and no one dies. However, you can not just throw money at a system that is consuming our budgets like a black hole. We can not afford it. Soon these programs will eat up so much of our budget that we can not provide any other services! Throwing money at a broken system is not going to fix it.

But again, you can't justify abortion on the basis that you don't believe enough is being done for you or someone else. You shouldn't be holding back their life because you want other things considered. The issue of this bill is abortion. It's not about anything else. While many other things are important, and they may be related in ways, they are not the subject of this bill, nor the issue of abortion in general.

 

When it is to consider legislation that would save innocent lives, it is worth it in the eyes of many. Also, you can thank your Occupy and Socialist organization friends who caused the uproar and impeded on the process that was taking place just because they were on the opposing side. THEY are the ones who cost this state a million dollars. The filibuster was killed, they were voting on the bills, had it not been for the crowd there would not BE another special session.

 

Resorting to using young children to push your agenda. Scandalous.

Whoops, you already use fetal children to push your agenda. Shouldn't be surprised.

 

First off, if you think that I support the Occupy movement, you should check my posting history. I am not some socialist. Far from it. I am a social moderate and a fiscal conservative. You say the legislation will save lives. I say that is an ignorant notion because it will quickly get struck down under the holding in Casey. So really, he spent a million dollars to accomplish nothing other than to get his way and get it now. Essentially it was a million dollar temper tantrum.

 

Both sides use fetuses to push their agenda. You probably don't see your side in this argument as an agenda. You see it as the truth. So does the other side. But, in reality, both sides are pushing an agenda based on their beliefs.

As a Roman Catholic, I am not in favor of abortion. However, unlike a lot of people who are against abortion due to religious belief, I also feel that we should not abandon the child once it is born. To do so would be to ignore the loaves and fishes story in the Bible. IMO that amounts to "cafeteria Christianity." You choose what you like and ignore the rest.

As a supporter of the Constitution, I believe that my religious beliefs should not define what the law is. I believe that a law that shuts down abortion clinics will not stop abortions, it will cause illegal abortions that will compound that tragedy by causing another...the loss of the life of the mother.

 

For once, I agree with you. One can make their point without being tasteless and obscene.

 

Dear Perry

"The more you tighten your grip, the more voters will slip through your fingers."

 

Agreed. We've not stopped drug use by banning drugs while executing a tremendously expensive war on said drugs. Further, illegal abortions are currently occurring and will continue to occur by banning them. Now, I believe abortion after that 20 week period should be illegal, but people break the law left and right in this country.

Example:

It's a fools errand to believe we're turning back the clock on abortion just as its a fools errand to believe we will eradicate drug abuse. I'd rather spend the million dollars you mentioned to educate people about safe sex - something that might prevent the need for some of these abortions. In the end, though, people are people and they'll do whatever they damn well please (unsafe sex, drug abuse drinking & driving) even though they are likely to understand the possible repercussions of those actions.

 

I guess 100% of women wanting an abortion were raped..

no? wait this just in..people have other choices of birth control? so they can prevent pregnancies in the first place?

get out of here.