Martin would still be alive today based on a whole slew of 'what ifs'. The most common sense one would be not hitting someone.
"Son?" Oh, you are so hilarious. Ignore logic. Ignore that someone with a deadly weapon instigated a confrontation that should never have occurred. Live in your fantasy world.
Well at least you take your own advice of ignoring logic, lol it has not been proven who instigated the confrontation. Did you even pay attention to the trial? you are wrongly connecting dots in your head by mentally oversimplifying. think more critically
Having any discussion with you in this forum is a complete waste of time. You never post anything of substance. Frankly, I don't think you really believe half of what you post in D&D. You're just trolling here for fun. I really wish that putting a member on ignore was forum specific. There are several members I would have on ignore in D&D, and nowhere else. You are one of them. A couple are so bad that I put them on ignore anyway. You? You're just a joker down here.
You don't know that. Who knows who started it. We do know GZ was stalking TM. Sanford's neighborhood watch guide tells you not to do it. Maybe it shouldn't be muder, but sounds like a case of manslaughter.
It's a waste of time here in this thread for you because you can't evolve your thinking past a pedestrian level of awareness.
deckard, I know you won't take this, from me, well but you have no basis for saying that GZ instigated this tragedy beyond the fact that he got out of his truck... and I don't think that is a crime. You and many others here have written and promoted a storyline which is meant to drum up sympathy for the tragically dead Trayvon Martin. The professionals involved didn't see a crime and still don't see a crime but The Seekers of Social Justice are all over it!
God, it is so pathetic how much righties admire George Zimmer"man". Do all of ya'll have police scanners on your living room table. There was a guy in Galena Park who used to sit in his yard and write down the license numbers of people who he considered "suspicious". If the guy were 20 years younger and 45 lbs lighter he could have been GZ.
Incorrect Sir. There is only one witness. This witness is also on trial. It is the prosecutions responsibly to prove the witness wrong and that he is the one who punched him first. Since the prosecution could not prove this, we can only use what evidence is at hand, which is the witness himself. Everything else is circumstantial and punishing an individual out of emotion would be wrong.
This isn't a lefty righty thing to me. I'm a righty who sides with gun control who was against Joe Horn but this is a clear case of self defense. There is no way on earth he acted with a depraved mind or ill will or spite. The prosecution is doing nothing but speculating and had the **** kicked out of every witness they put on the stand. I suggest you start thinking outside your polictical beliefs. I don't admire GZ either. He hasn't really done anything to earn my admiration.
I don't admire Zimmerman one bit. I am simply viewing the facts and not getting all caught up the emotions and the race. It is pathetic how the "lefties" forsake the law in favor of mob rule.
yup. Deckard has proven unable to defend his logic. Instead he resorted to insulting me. He really needs to open his eyes and learn to argue based on facts, not his mentally connected dots. I'm embarrassed for him, actually.
And for the record, yes, I am concerned about a precedent in this case. My concern is that if someone uses self defense when they feel their life is really in danger, a mob of racially charged emo's risk sending them to prison on a bunch of hypothetical scenarios.
The most logical and common sensical one is clearly the "What if George hadn't followed Trayvon multiple times for absolutely no justified reason". There's absolutely no reason the 2 should have ever have come in contact. The reason your "What If" of not hitting someone fails is that we have no idea who threw the first punch and never will. If Zimmerman threw the first punch, which is quite possible, Martin had every right to hit back. What we know beyond the shadow of a doubt is that the 2 never would have come in contact had Zimmerman done what Travyon did: Gone about his business. When you follow someone repeatedly late at night, you are clearly creating a climate for a confrontation/altercation. Since when, by the way, is getting shot in the heart a forseeable and predictable response to throwing a punch at someone? Not that hitting someone is justified, but what % of Americans over the past year who have punched someone do you honestly think have been shot dead? You make it sound as if Trayvon was armed and pulled out a gun to try to shoot George.
So you are only concerned about the racial aspect of this then since the vast majority of self defense cases do not have an interracial component?
I wonder how those of you siding with Zimmerman would feel it were your 17 yo child that was gunned down for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood.
I wonder how those of you siding with TM feel knowing that there are legitimate threats of violence and riots out there pressuring the jury and the media to potentially forcibly convict an innocent man Why is there nothing being done to curb these threats being thrown out left and right? Why aren't these racebaiting celebrities being held accountable for the violence they are inciting?
