Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Houston Out: Jeremy Lin, 1st Rd Pick
Houston In: Isaiah Thomas, Patrick Patterson, 2nd rounder(s)

Trade with Sac Town. Clears up cap space and gets us a competent starter at the 4 and gives us two cheap, competent shooters that can start at the 1.

 

ok i know you guys want a certaing pg gone but if you don't want him at that price why would other teams take him along with asik? other teams want cheap talent. since bev is the second coming of gary payton at 10 dollars a year, you'd be able to get a lot back in return if that contract is added to asik, along with one of our young power forwards.

just be patient and wait til love or lamarcus hold their teams hostage. Wish a 20 wins season for both portland and the wolves and cross your fingers.

 

Well we might find out today. Milwaukee and Atlanta have been dickering with Jennings and Teague trying to find a suitable S&T and they can't seem to get it done. Now Milwaukee is supposedly preparing an offer sheet for Teague. They obviously want Teague over Jennings. And Atlanta must've been willing to talk S&T for Jennings but they weren't willing to complete S&T taking back Jennings. That must be because Jennings is holding out for too much money (allegedly $11-12 million per yr). So, now Milwaukee is threatening to sign Teague to an offer sheet (probably for more than he is worth) and put Atlanta on the spot to match him.

This is important to Lin possibly being traded, believe it or not, as teams sort through their options at PG. If Teague is signed, then that leaves Jennings on the free agent market. The next best PG on the free agent market is probably Mo Williams. Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta are all trying to sort out their point guard dilemma and Charlotte really needs a PG. Detroit is trying to trade for Rondo but they really don't have a PG to send Ainge back. So watch those teams today...Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston.

 

Would you rather have Lin for $8.3 mil for 2 years or Jennings for $40-$50 mil over 4 years?

 

Am I the only person on CF's who looks at these Asik trades and think they all suck?

 

nope.

 

Did we ever figure out which 2nd round picks we got from Portland? Would like to know for making trades.

 

were better off keeping asik....all these trade are turrrible

deng, green, bass

Asik is a top 5 center, keep to the all star break and his stock will be even higher.

 

I agree with this.

Asik's value is going to increase exponensially when -

A. After free agency when finally all of the other top flight bigs(Bynum & Pekovic) are locked up.
B. After top prospect bigs from this years & last years draft end up not impressing or panning out when actual basketball starts.
C. During the season when injuries happen, and teams are trying to make a run.

Morey has to know this, and there really isn't much of a risk of leaving Asik on the roster for a few more months other than just hurting his feelings.

I think the Rockets are going to have one of the best trade packages to offer a team in a Harden/OKC type of situation here in a few months. Unless there is a deal out there that Morey just can't help but make, its a no-brainer to hold onto Asik for a few months. The upside of getting another tranformative player in trade with Asik, picks, & young PF prospects are just wayy too high to just move Asik for a fringe roll player like freaking Brandon Bass.... give me a break.

 

Lin trades:

Lin out, possibly TJones and GSmith out as well. Some assortment of these players in:


1. Danny Granger - if we can construct a deal sending Lin to a third team for nothing but a second rounder (one of the teams that loses out on the Jennings/Teague derby) then we could send TJones to Indiana for Granger. Doable. Don't know if Indy would bite.

2. Ryan Anderson - same scenario as 1. Lin out to a 3rd team..TJones to N.O. (gotta give up something to get Anderson)

3. Ersan Ilyasova - same scenario with Lin possibly going to the Bucks along with TJones for Ilyasova if Bucks lose out on Teague and they decide NOT to give Jennings $50 million over 4 years. If we took back even more salary, say Udoh's expiring, Milwaukee would have enough cap to offer Kirilenko a nice contract.

4. Derrick Williams, Luke Ridnour, J.J. Barea - same deal. Minnesota is looking for cap space to be able to bring in Corey Brewer...Lin for these guys might get it done. We'd have to get Derrick Williams out of this deal however.

5. Ben Gordon, Brandon Haywood and possibly Jeff Taylor - Lin/Greg Smith/TJones is enough salary to get this done. Send them $3 million cash and then they can sign Big Al outright without having to amnesty Ty Thomas. We can also agree to offer Sessions our Room MLE if they buy him out to sign Big Al without amnestying Thomas.


These are all possible moves that would fit us with Lin's contract I do believe. And Detroit or Boston could very well come into play as the "third team" to move Lin to in the event of a Rondo trade or in the event that Detroit is stuck without a point guard when they can't get a Rondo trade done.

 

What about Nene? His contract isn't appealing, but he's not that old, and his per36 numbers have stayed pretty consistent throughout his career. He can play both the 4 and the 5, can run the floor, finish and hit a mid-range J decently enough.

He wouldn't be my first choice, but I don't think he'd be a bad fit here.

 

Well then he is dooming his team for awhile. The mavs now consist of past their prime early to mid thirties players on the decline. They did next to nothing this year to address the future. Not that I'm complaining, it's just one less team to worry about.

 

Plus this way he at least could help the team he has been with his whole career rebuild rather than retire on a dissapointing note.

 

Random FA signing idea:

I've heard that we might have to cut Anderson and Ohlberecht to sign Dwight to the max. In this case, would you rather sign Anderson or Xavier Henry (just released by Pelicans) to back up Harden?

 

Here's another Lin trade for your consideration:


Lin and TJones to Orlando

for

Arron Afflalo and Al Harrington.

LOGIC:
1. If Orlando says yes, immediately offer those 2 guys to Indiana for Granger. Afflalo is an asset. They need a shooter at the 2 guard and he's a good defender. Might just be the piece to put them over the top. They've got Lance Stephenson at the 2 and while he has shown improvement he is very eratic and not a quality shooter. Afflalo is good on both ends of the floor. They can also get Harrington to modify his contract and buy him out possibly. Or modify his contract and hold the contract as a possible trade filler in the 2014 off season.

2. If we can't get Granger from Indiana with these 2 guys, we just keep them. We should be able to flip Afflalo later for an expiring and a draft pick from some playoff team looking for a shooting guard. And once again, you modify Harrington's contract to make his 2014-15 guarantee around $500,000 and guarantee this season 100%.

(This trade may be more possible down around January 10th when this year's salary is guaranteed for Harrington and he's simply getting a couple hundred thousand dollars to alter the guarantee in the last year.)

 

This Vander Blue guy in SL is looking like a better prospect than Anderson.

 

I think this year is going to be huge for JLin while I don't think he's All-Star caliber I think he can improve and become the starting PG the Rockets need, you don't need an elite PG to win championships in this League, look at the Lakers (Fisher), The Heat ( Chalmers), Mavs (old Kidd) .

Lets give this kid a break he's barely 24 and could be considered a ROOKIE as he averaged 13pts and 6 assists in his first full NBA season.

Yes he sucked at the playoffs and Yes he sucked the first half of the season but he played surprisingly better the second half.
I firmly believe he's not a liability as a defender and he's aggressive playing the lanes going for steals(sometime though he gambled too much and got burnt) but he'll get better with more experience.

We need him to shoot at a high clip and play the pick and roll with D12 which I think Pat is not as good as Jlin is.

 

does he have J? i dont remember ever seeing him shoot the ball

 

I would do it if we get back mahinmi (a legit backup center on a reasonable contract)

 

Here's an idea. Let me know what you think. If more needs to be added or subtracted or whatever.

HOUSTON IN: Aaron Afflalo, Glen Davis
HOUSTON OUT: Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Both 2014 2nd Rounders (One from NY)

ORLANDO IN: Greg Monroe
ORLANDO OUT: Aaron Afflalo, Glen Davis, 2014 1st Rounder

DETROIT IN: Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, ORL 2014 1st Rounder, Both 2014 2nd Rounders from HOU
DETROIT OUT: Greg Monroe

Why Detroit does it: After picking up Josh Smith long term, and with Drummond looking like their guy. Greg Monroe is an extremely valuable surplus requirement on this team. They need a PG that can score and be a bit more ball dominant (Lin) since Smoove and Drummond need more of their offense created for them. They are also still a little away from a contender, which is why they want the draft picks to continue building. Asik can be traded for further assets or put into the rotation. Right now they are building a team similar to Memphis, but they just need a couple years to develop and build that before they can really take off, I think. Their side all depends on what they think about playing Smoove at the 3, which could be the plan and this whole thing would be off.

Why Orlando does it: They get a young player and soon-to-be all-star in Greg Monroe to build their team around, and they don't have to give up all that much to get it. Similar to the James Harden trade. Their only reservation would be that 1st rounder, but they'd be happy to get a player near Monroe's level with that pick so I could see them moving for the semi-established potential star similar to Morey with Harden.

Why Houston does it: They get a solid perimeter defender (which is a HUGE need) and very good player in Aaron Afflalo. He could be an great 6th man or a starter in a small lineup of some sort. Glen Davis could fill that hole at PF. People love to hate on him it seems, but he did average 15 ppg and 7 rpg which is essentially what we need from the PF spot. He's a hustler and decent offensively with the ability to hit a mid-range jumper, which will help the spacing for Howard down low. He's also got decent size and is a respectable defender. It also frees up a little bit more cap space ($2.5M) for us to try and sign a backup center for Howard.