LOL @ Weidman being an unknown. Silva has struggled vs wrestlers in the past, and Weidman is an elite wrestlers. That is why many were picking him for the upset.
Honestly the best business decision no rematch. Because no matter who wins you lose a main eventer. Have Weidman defend the title and let Silva start taking on dream match opponents that he would never get to face as champion.
Spot on. What I like about Silva is making his elite opponent look like an amateur. But as seen here his arrogance caught up to him. Weidman is one determined dude and a deserving champ but I still believe that Silva will beat him 9/10.
Since he started so early in the fight I was hoping he'd start slapping the ground in the 3rd or 4th. Faking the grogginess before actually getting knocked out was new though.
I'm not huge on UFC. I'm guessing he tried to do a Muhammad Ali: <iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/5zUut60gfkU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And it failed? LOL.
If you're gonna intentionally lose in an MMA fight, I'd think a heel hook, arm bar, or just simply getting smothered by Weidman for 5 rounds would be more ideal than getting KTFO.
Great article on Weidman's setup for the KO on Anderson. This guy Jack Slack has some great breakdowns. One of the few people on bleacherreport who is actually good. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1695987-ufc-162-how-chris-weidman-killed-the-king UFC 162: How Chris Weidman Killed the 'King' BY JACK SLACK (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON JULY 8, 2013 2,587 reads 22 UFC 162 brought one of the greatest surprises in recent UFC history as the relatively inexperienced Chris Weidman knocked out the great Anderson Silva. Weidman has just 10 fights to his name including his win over Silva and had been absent from the sport for a year (a quarter of his total career) up until the fight due to injury. Here's the gif of the knockout. You're going to want to keep that open. Weidman has unfortunately been robbed of some of the glory that he deserves by the many fans and journalists who are claiming this to be more a case of Silva losing the fight for himself rather than Weidman taking the title from him. Weidman won the first round in fairly convincing fashion as he took down the champion, landed good punches and attacked with a kneebar and heel hook. Once the fight returned to the feet, Anderson Silva went to his showboating and looked to convince the judges that he was winning the round based on his confidence and bravado. Unfortunately, MMA is the kind of sport wherein judges can be fooled into thinking that showboating actually means something, certainly some fans are still convinced Silva won the first round. Silva's limbo dancing is part of his game, not an unnecessary add on. In the second round, it was more of Silva going about his usual antics and waiting for Weidman to overextend himself. Weidman did a wonderful job of continually moving into good striking range rather than lunging in at Silva's bait. Weidman's jabs landed successfully through Silva's razzle-dazzle, and that had to irritate the champion. I spoke in my "Killing the King" series about how Anderson rolls with or pulls away from punches and how his opponents in MMA make it a good deal easier for him by never leaving the left-right-left punching pattern: In MMA, this [rolling with strikes] should be easier than in boxing because almost all MMA fighters attack by alternating their hands—left-right-left or vice versa. Boxers often double or even triple up the same hand mid-combination, which makes it difficult for the defender to turn side to side as Silva does. Very few opponents have doubled up punches from one hand against Silva. I am not saying that doubling up would allow a fighter to knock Silva out—there isn't a simple answer to an iron chin. However, there is a reason why elite boxers rarely roll with every punch as effectively as Silva does; boxers are not as predictable and one-note in their offence. Of course I had no idea that Chris Weidman would be the man to try this and even less of a clue that it would end in a knockout for a fighter whose chances most of us were pretty pessimistic about. Weidman's success in throwing Silva off his game and catching the champion off balance before finishing him on the ground was largely due to his doubling up off his right hand. Muhammad Ali draws Sonny Liston out and catches him reaching. Leaning straight back away from punches at the waist is a technical taboo in boxing. It opens up some lovely counters if you can convince an opponent to lunge at you—see Silva over Forrest Griffin or Muhammad Ali over Sonny Liston (which I wrote about here)—but if you get hit while bending backward at the waist, there isn't far that you can go to absorb the force of the blow. A fantastic example of both the risks and rewards of pulling straight back from punches can be seen in Prince Naseem Hamed's bout with Kevin Kelley. Hamed was dropped multiple times as he was hit while trying to lean back, but equally, Hamed's own knockout punch came off one of these awkward backward leans which made Kelley over commit. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/_QerG_FNn-A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Fans can complain about Silva leaning back with his hands low all day because it cost him the fight, but it has also won him numerous fights in his incredible win streak. It is difficult to lean as far back, or as freely, with one's hands up—try performing limbo while holding your fists to your chin for a lesson in human balance—and Silva loves to draw fighters in by making their strikes fall just short. Silva loads up the short right hook while leaning back against Belfort. Plenty of elite fighters in boxing, kickboxing and MMA have pulled away from strikes, as Silva does, and have become known as crafty fighters for their chosen style; Muhammad Ali and Prince Naseem are a couple of great examples from the boxing world. Unfortunately, most who do pull away from punches eventually get hit while they are doing so, and it is just so much worse to get hit while leaning backward than when in stance with some semblance of a guard. A great example of the problem faced in Silva's leaning away from punches at the waist can be seen in Sugar Ray Robinson's autobiography Sugar Ray in which he details preparing to fight the incredibly awkward and savvy Randy Turpin who had bested Robinson for his title in their first meeting. Recounting how Turpin pulled directly back from strikes, Robinson remembers that an old adviser, Soldier Jones, counselled him to "feint Turpin into yanking his head back... Because then he can't yank it back no more." After apparently being headbutted in their second meeting, Robinson began to worry that the fight could be called off as a technical knockout in favour of Turpin. Robinson reminisces: In my desperation I feinted Turpin into retreat with my left jab, as I had done to my sparring partners. When he yanked his head back I let go a right hand to the face. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Z3npTVGLrCs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Turpin was awkward, but nowhere near as active in his backward leans as Anderson Silva is. The truth of the knockout is pretty simple, Weidman's double right hand caused Silva to lean back as far as he could before the left hook was released. Watch Silva's fights with Stephan Bonnar, Vitor Belfort or any others who chose to strike with him. It was predictable left, right, left combinations from start until finish (whether that be a minute in or 25 minutes later). Silva is so used to evading basic combinations that they just won't work. Reaching to hit Silva—as Forrest Griffin famously did—is just asking to meet a counterpunch as your strikes fall short. What Weidman did was to stay in range at all times while getting Silva to lean back. As the second, short right hand came (with nothing on it), Anderson pulled back just as he normally does for the left hook, leaving him with nowhere to go, bent over backward and unable to move his feet as Weidman's left hook sailed in. The thing which most people won't understand is the importance of the powerless backhand in the middle of the combination. So often in combat sports, it is the minor punches which are more important than the major ones. Had Weidman not gotten Silva to pull his head back with the slappy second right hand, the left hook would have sailed right past by an inch or two, and we would all still be talking about Silva's reflexes. Silva leans back from the first right straight. Silva leans back again as Chris Weidman slaps a back-handed second right at him. Silva's head is now well behind his centre of gravity. Silva has nowhere left to go as the left hook comes in. As it happened, the first time that Weidman used the double right hand to place himself in range for the left hook it worked, but I have little doubt that, had the fight continued, Weidman would have continued to work his way in and fake Silva into over-committing to a backward lean. A similar effect can, of course, be accomplished by doubling up the jab, but the double right hand obviously worked well on this occasion. On the subject of leaning back at the waist to evade punches and how precariously positioned it can leave a fighter, I am reminded of an old trick that the great karateka Mas Oyama would perform to illustrate the importance of posture in karate. Oyama would have a man sit on a chair with his feet on the floor and his back against the backrest. At this point, Oyama, a strong man by most standards, would place his index finger on the seated man's forehead and ask him to stand up. When the man inevitably couldn't, Oyama would explain that it was more to do with the weight of the seated man's head being behind his centre of gravity and needing to move it forward in order to stand. I am not so traditionally minded that I believe a fighter should never pull straight back from punches, that is simply old fashioned and has been proven wrong by the enormous success of men like Ali, Hamed, Roy Jones Jr. and Anderson Silva. What I will say is that using this unusual style of evasion does raise the stakes enormously when the leaning fighter inevitably does get hit clean. Keep your eyes open for my breakdown of Cub Swanson's performance against Denis Siver and my upcoming pair of articles on "The Fights That Made Anderson Silva."
Figured I would repost this here.... Great article on Weidman's setup for the KO on Anderson. This guy Jack Slack has some great breakdowns. One of the few people on bleacherreport who is actually good. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1695987-ufc-162-how-chris-weidman-killed-the-king UFC 162: How Chris Weidman Killed the 'King' BY JACK SLACK (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON JULY 8, 2013 2,587 reads 22 UFC 162 brought one of the greatest surprises in recent UFC history as the relatively inexperienced Chris Weidman knocked out the great Anderson Silva. Weidman has just 10 fights to his name including his win over Silva and had been absent from the sport for a year (a quarter of his total career) up until the fight due to injury. Here's the gif of the knockout. You're going to want to keep that open. Weidman has unfortunately been robbed of some of the glory that he deserves by the many fans and journalists who are claiming this to be more a case of Silva losing the fight for himself rather than Weidman taking the title from him. Weidman won the first round in fairly convincing fashion as he took down the champion, landed good punches and attacked with a kneebar and heel hook. Once the fight returned to the feet, Anderson Silva went to his showboating and looked to convince the judges that he was winning the round based on his confidence and bravado. Unfortunately, MMA is the kind of sport wherein judges can be fooled into thinking that showboating actually means something, certainly some fans are still convinced Silva won the first round. Silva's limbo dancing is part of his game, not an unnecessary add on. In the second round, it was more of Silva going about his usual antics and waiting for Weidman to overextend himself. Weidman did a wonderful job of continually moving into good striking range rather than lunging in at Silva's bait. Weidman's jabs landed successfully through Silva's razzle-dazzle, and that had to irritate the champion. I spoke in my "Killing the King" series about how Anderson rolls with or pulls away from punches and how his opponents in MMA make it a good deal easier for him by never leaving the left-right-left punching pattern: In MMA, this [rolling with strikes] should be easier than in boxing because almost all MMA fighters attack by alternating their hands—left-right-left or vice versa. Boxers often double or even triple up the same hand mid-combination, which makes it difficult for the defender to turn side to side as Silva does. Very few opponents have doubled up punches from one hand against Silva. I am not saying that doubling up would allow a fighter to knock Silva out—there isn't a simple answer to an iron chin. However, there is a reason why elite boxers rarely roll with every punch as effectively as Silva does; boxers are not as predictable and one-note in their offence. Of course I had no idea that Chris Weidman would be the man to try this and even less of a clue that it would end in a knockout for a fighter whose chances most of us were pretty pessimistic about. Weidman's success in throwing Silva off his game and catching the champion off balance before finishing him on the ground was largely due to his doubling up off his right hand. Muhammad Ali draws Sonny Liston out and catches him reaching. Leaning straight back away from punches at the waist is a technical taboo in boxing. It opens up some lovely counters if you can convince an opponent to lunge at you—see Silva over Forrest Griffin or Muhammad Ali over Sonny Liston (which I wrote about here)—but if you get hit while bending backward at the waist, there isn't far that you can go to absorb the force of the blow. A fantastic example of both the risks and rewards of pulling straight back from punches can be seen in Prince Naseem Hamed's bout with Kevin Kelley. Hamed was dropped multiple times as he was hit while trying to lean back, but equally, Hamed's own knockout punch came off one of these awkward backward leans which made Kelley over commit. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/_QerG_FNn-A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Fans can complain about Silva leaning back with his hands low all day because it cost him the fight, but it has also won him numerous fights in his incredible win streak. It is difficult to lean as far back, or as freely, with one's hands up—try performing limbo while holding your fists to your chin for a lesson in human balance—and Silva loves to draw fighters in by making their strikes fall just short. Silva loads up the short right hook while leaning back against Belfort. Plenty of elite fighters in boxing, kickboxing and MMA have pulled away from strikes, as Silva does, and have become known as crafty fighters for their chosen style; Muhammad Ali and Prince Naseem are a couple of great examples from the boxing world. Unfortunately, most who do pull away from punches eventually get hit while they are doing so, and it is just so much worse to get hit while leaning backward than when in stance with some semblance of a guard. A great example of the problem faced in Silva's leaning away from punches at the waist can be seen in Sugar Ray Robinson's autobiography Sugar Ray in which he details preparing to fight the incredibly awkward and savvy Randy Turpin who had bested Robinson for his title in their first meeting. Recounting how Turpin pulled directly back from strikes, Robinson remembers that an old adviser, Soldier Jones, counselled him to "feint Turpin into yanking his head back... Because then he can't yank it back no more." After apparently being headbutted in their second meeting, Robinson began to worry that the fight could be called off as a technical knockout in favour of Turpin. Robinson reminisces: In my desperation I feinted Turpin into retreat with my left jab, as I had done to my sparring partners. When he yanked his head back I let go a right hand to the face. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Z3npTVGLrCs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Turpin was awkward, but nowhere near as active in his backward leans as Anderson Silva is. The truth of the knockout is pretty simple, Weidman's double right hand caused Silva to lean back as far as he could before the left hook was released. Watch Silva's fights with Stephan Bonnar, Vitor Belfort or any others who chose to strike with him. It was predictable left, right, left combinations from start until finish (whether that be a minute in or 25 minutes later). Silva is so used to evading basic combinations that they just won't work. Reaching to hit Silva—as Forrest Griffin famously did—is just asking to meet a counterpunch as your strikes fall short. What Weidman did was to stay in range at all times while getting Silva to lean back. As the second, short right hand came (with nothing on it), Anderson pulled back just as he normally does for the left hook, leaving him with nowhere to go, bent over backward and unable to move his feet as Weidman's left hook sailed in. The thing which most people won't understand is the importance of the powerless backhand in the middle of the combination. So often in combat sports, it is the minor punches which are more important than the major ones. Had Weidman not gotten Silva to pull his head back with the slappy second right hand, the left hook would have sailed right past by an inch or two, and we would all still be talking about Silva's reflexes. Silva leans back from the first right straight. Silva leans back again as Chris Weidman slaps a back-handed second right at him. Silva's head is now well behind his centre of gravity. Silva has nowhere left to go as the left hook comes in. As it happened, the first time that Weidman used the double right hand to place himself in range for the left hook it worked, but I have little doubt that, had the fight continued, Weidman would have continued to work his way in and fake Silva into over-committing to a backward lean. A similar effect can, of course, be accomplished by doubling up the jab, but the double right hand obviously worked well on this occasion. On the subject of leaning back at the waist to evade punches and how precariously positioned it can leave a fighter, I am reminded of an old trick that the great karateka Mas Oyama would perform to illustrate the importance of posture in karate. Oyama would have a man sit on a chair with his feet on the floor and his back against the backrest. At this point, Oyama, a strong man by most standards, would place his index finger on the seated man's forehead and ask him to stand up. When the man inevitably couldn't, Oyama would explain that it was more to do with the weight of the seated man's head being behind his centre of gravity and needing to move it forward in order to stand. I am not so traditionally minded that I believe a fighter should never pull straight back from punches, that is simply old fashioned and has been proven wrong by the enormous success of men like Ali, Hamed, Roy Jones Jr. and Anderson Silva. What I will say is that using this unusual style of evasion does raise the stakes enormously when the leaning fighter inevitably does get hit clean. Keep your eyes open for my breakdown of Cub Swanson's performance against Denis Siver and my upcoming pair of articles on "The Fights That Made Anderson Silva."
Have you not seen Pulp Fiction? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/DicYF4RQBnU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I don't train/fight or anything and just watched the fight and the replays until the broadcast ended. But I thought I was seeing Weidman mouth-breathing mode already in the 2nd, and he had stopped going for the takedown since that seemed to be his gameplan from the start of the first. But if it was a setup to try to catch him standing up like in this article you just posted, then that's awesome.
Actually, they were all fu**ing shocked by the ridiculousness of what he was doing. I don't recall them saying that he was acting correctly or encouraging it at any point.
FWIW: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/...chris-weidman-anderson-silva-ii-happen-dec-28 I'm hopeful that Silva takes it more serious, this time around.
