No that is it. It took 40 pages just to analyze that info! I think we are done and ready for another nugget.
Answer the question! Why would the Lakers help the Warriors form a superteam within their state and division for two LOW first rounders??? They get no cap relief, or young talent in your proposal.
Get over yourself, dude. You come on spewing non-sense and you expect people to take you seriously? Go away.
But you keep forgetting why we made that trade. We got a higher return from robinson than we could get from patterson who has 1 year left on his contract. After that he wants to get paid. The only other team that was reported to have interest in him was the spurs. They would not have given us both cap relief and more than 2 second round picks. At most they give us 1 late first which hurts what we want to do this year. They want their cap space to sign free agents and they like to use their picks to find hidden talent in the draft. Why would any team give us a first round pick for him for one year when they could sign someone else and get him later? There is always the chance patterson would have played well in the playoffs against ibaka or fareid and upped his value, but chances are he would have lowered it because he is soft.
They got a higher seed and got further in the playoffs than the Rockets did. Thompson and Barnes are young, high ceiling prospects who already performed. Curry is a superstar and the best shooter in the league bar none. David Lee is an Allstar. Not saying that the Rockets don't have talent-- in fact, their records are close-- but I can see how Dwight Howard would think that the Warriors are a better situation for him. It is at least plausible if you are not looking at it as a homer.
The real flaw in his argument is his understanding of cap rules. The Lakers MUST take back salary, or the trade is in violation of the 150% rule for capped out teams (which both LA and GSW are). It's not as simple as just send the players to one team and the picks to LA.
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But Dwight would get less cash. A lot less cash. And it requires cooperation from a division rival. For bad 1st picks? I still don't see it.
Objectively, GSWs can offer a S&T that is good for the Lakers and than letting him walk. Objectively, the Ws are a poor fit for Dwight. Their O is skewed from inside-out. In my subjective opinion it is an objectively deceptive destination for DHoHo.
I am sure Dwight Howard is considering the 2nd rounders and Euro stash players as a factor weighing in favor of Houston.
Carl Herrera figured out a way to work in his opinion on the P-Pat trade several times in a thread about Dwight Howard rumors.
It's your objective and right now you are blind. You couldn't even see how wrong you were about TRob when you said we would have to pay to dump him. We got 4 seconds and Kostas IMO has the value of a first. You were so wrong you should be embarassed. But instead of admitting it you just keep making troll like posts. If you are really a Rockets fan than at least give us the benifit of doubt. The Rockets are near the same level as the Warriors. You want to believe differently fine. But we do not have to dump any real contributors to get Howard. Plus we hold onto Asik which is a great trade chip that will get as something more valuable later on. If you can't at least see that there are some real advantages and I am not even mentioning the fact he gets stuck in CA without the tax breaks and without the extra 30 mil that only LA can give him. Why would he leave LA to go down the block for less. The only reason would be because he hate the lakers that much and doesn't care about the money. That might be true but you don't know that. Everyone knows dwight is talking to Chandler and Harden almost everyday. Who's he talking to on the Warriors. The Rockets are young and have assets to get more assets that better fit Howard if need be. The Warriors do not. This is a Rockets board and tie goes to the Rockets unless you're a troll but it's not even a tie.
Merely responding to someone who brought up the trade after I observed that the Warriors are an attractive option for Dwight Howard, which got these homers angry. Apparently taking shots at me over the trade is what they do when you get them angry. And then a bunch of people replied to my response. Apparently some people really want to talk about that topic.
again hypothetically is deal is possible but it takes hugs leaps of logic and faith 1) GS finds a team to take on Boguts 15 million dollar salary for a 1st round pick -- not many teams in the league can abosrb that deal right now and the ones who can wish to spend that money on better free agents. On top of that if history is any indicator - salary dumps like this require at the very LEAST a 1st round pick attached to Bogut as enticement. If I were the team taking on Bogut I would want the 2014 1st and a future 1st. Problem is that the Lakers would want the 2014 1st 2) Rush as a dump - smaller contract more option to trade to but again - GS would need to give up another 1st rounder - maybe the 2016 year - no team would give UP a first round pick for Rush. So basically first find a team with near max camp space offer team bogut 2014 1st, another 1st (2018 lets say) to get a 2nd round pick back and a TPE that goes to LA then another team Rush 2016 1st for a 2nd round pick and a TPE that goes to LA Now GS needs to send multiple 1sts to LA -- problem is they gave UP their best first round pick to dump bogut on some team. If they give up Barnes or Klay instead of the 2014 first round - fine that could be acceptable to the Lakers so Barnes + multiple first - earliest pick would be 2020, then 2022 -- these picks are virtual unknowns on how good/bad the draft class will be. No team would want something that far ahead unless there is no lotto protection whatsoever on them. so at that point the Lakers would get what - a bunch of unknown picks (in terms of where they land and how good the draft class is) since they are so far ahead -- OR they will get something in 2016 - no way will they get the Warriors 2014 pick since thats needed to dump Bogut (if you think some team out there with max cap space will take on bogut and not get at the very LEAST a 2014 pick in return you're fooling yourself) and I am not even sure if you can accept multiple TPE from two different teams to add up to one out going salary. - If you cant do that then GS needs to find one team that can send one massive TPE to the Lakers by taking on both Rush and Bogut -- at that point Rush 4 million why would that team take Rush and not want Barnes or Klay who make similar money? so many issues with this deal in terms of logic and legality. If you're a GS fan fine but at least come up with scenarios that actually make sense
I am sure he considers the extra $16 million as a factor weighing in favor of Houston as opposed to playing with a big man who cant help him on the boards. Face it carl, it was the right move. He had to go.
You need to renounce your FAs to remove their cap holds. The Bucks hadn't renounced Redick, Ellis, or Dalembert at the time and had no cap room. Obviously, the conversation is pointless since you can simply go to the CBAFAQ and find that there is no restriction from a team over the cap from sign and trading a player and receiving no salary in return or receiving a sign and traded player and sending out the corresponding salary (125-150%). Didn't stop YoYo from acting a fool though. OH WAIT
