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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. pahiyas

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    He is neither inspiring nor a law enforcement officer.
     
  2. Refman

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    I would never use a Kel-Tec either. I would either take my Glock or my Makarov. You see, you made the assumption that I am against CCLs. Bad assumption.

    I also understand that having a CCL comes with responsibilities. One of those responsibilities is to not put yourself in a situation where you would have to use it. A CCL is designed for when trouble finds you (ie you are randomly assaulted in a parking lot). It is not designed to go track down suspected bad guys and plug them if they react.

    Zimmerman's actions give fuel to the fire for those who want more restrictive gun laws.
     
  3. Refman

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    Not his job. Neighborhood watch is supposed to observe suspicious behavior, call the police and let the police do their job. Zimmerman decided to take matters into his own hands, knowing he was armed, because "these assholes always get away."
     
  4. gwayneco

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    You are making a silly assumption there.
     
  5. Firebomb525

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    What? Tray on started the damn fight.

    You really think Zimmerman would try and pick a fight with Trayvon, or do you think the man prone to street fights and burglaries would be the the aggressor?
     
  6. gwayneco

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    Rachel, I know that this is hard for you because of your mental deficiencies, but there is no evidence that Zimmerman "started it".
     
  7. otis thorpe

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    I wish i were as authentic as rachel thanks for the compliment
     
  8. gwayneco

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    All the important evidence is consistent with Zimmerman's defense. Even the prosecutions witnesses have supported Zimmerman. If the jury does its job properly, then Zimmerman will be acquitted. If they have another agenda, then he will be convicted. The prosecutions case is chicken **** and should never have been brought. This is nothing more than a political prosecution.
     
  9. otis thorpe

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    We have had a trial we can now go on facts and not innuendo
     
  10. Refman

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    You mean except for the witnesses that heard Trayvon yelling for help and the forensic evidence that has shown that the incident could not possibly have gone down the way Zimmerman said it did. The forensic evidence uniformly shows at Zimmerman either did not recall all of the events or was outright lying about them.

    Do I think the prosecution has proven second degree murder? No. Not even close. If they didn't include all lesser offenses in the indictment, then that is abysmal lawyering.

    If this truly were nothing more than a political prosecution, it would have been tossed on motion practice and never would have gotten to trial. At this point, if I were the defense, I would make a motion for directed verdict. The state has not, I believe, proven their case in chief.
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    uh, wrong
     
  12. CometsWin

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    I have a question. If Martin was beating the hell out of this guy. Bloodying his face, bloodying the back of his head, slamming his bloody head on the concrete, blood streaming all over (as evidenced by the photos taken after the fight), and then grabbed Zimmerman's gun in a struggle then why was there no blood on the gun? Sounds improbable. At minimum there are some serious inconsistencies in his story.
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    not enough blood, and the blood was confined to the head region (front and back) -- check the photos

    although that fact doesn't prove that GZ wasn't in danger, however
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Trayvon has zero arrest for any sort of burglary. What are you convicting the guy of a crime he was never even accused of?

    There isn't really any proof that TM started the fight. It's just your guess. When you see some evidence that TM started the fight let us know please.
     
  15. Refman

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    Uh, no it isn't. Please point me to any neighborhood watch training materials that instruct them to grab their gun and play amateur gumshoe following people around they feel may be suspicious. Oh yeah, there aren't any.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    it was legal for him to carry the gun as well as follow TM

    you act like it's illegal to have a neighborhood watch program
     
  17. Granville

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    No we haven't had a trial yet. The defense has not put their witnesses on yet.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    They've had the neighborhood watch trainer testify.

    Did GZ follow training for the neighborhood watch?

    Did GZ use the standards and procedures he was taught for the neighborhood watch program?
     
  19. CometsWin

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    So the blood all over his face and the blood all over the back of his head and the blood soaked towel he was using afterwards indicates there wasn't enough blood to be detected on Trayvon's hands or the gun he supposedly grabbed with both hands? Sounds legit. Lol
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    what do you suppose happened? GZ broke his own nose?

    lol yeah right
     

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