Egyptians resist Morsi; US-supported military to step in on Morsi's side

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BREAKING: State Department says Egyptian military overthrow spontaneous reaction to 'White House Down' movie</p>&mdash; David Burge (@iowahawkblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/statuses/352604927916376064">July 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Secretary of State John Kerry's motorcade gets stuck in <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Nantucket&amp;src=hash">#Nantucket</a> rotary traffic. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23awkward&amp;src=hash">#awkward</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZEOlDHo39Y">https://t.co/ZEOlDHo39Y</a></p>&mdash; Jason Graziadei (@JasonGraziadei) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonGraziadei/statuses/352456479506300929">July 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

Well we know Kerry is a coward who left Vietnam after getting shot so i knew his yellow belly wouldn't stand in front of the Egyptian army. i would never let that guy sit next to! me on my couch while fighting the good:grin: chicken hawk fight. give me Cheney any day.

 

I'm glad that the people wouldn't let someone put back into place authoritarian measures that got the old dictator ousted.

I love it. Sadly Morsi's win was a result of Mubarak. That guy was so cruel and horrible that the people who Mubarak was against seemed good just because they were the alternative.

It was sad that Mubarak was ever allowed to do what he did for so long that Morsi seemed a good alternative.

I'm glad that the Egyptian people wouldn't stand for it, and the military did the right thing in backing the people.

 

My bad i forgot to mention how the out of touch Kerry was on his yacht unlike real americans like the Bush's or Romney's

 

I would guess the military leaders assumed this strategy; letting the situation play out to it's inevitable failure and swoop in as saviors.

But I think all the Arab Spring countries and Iraq are in for 50 years of upheaval. You can't achieve a working democracy without willing, cooperative compromising parties and forward looking charismatic statesmen. Hell, the US Congress can't achieve anything with just the 25% teatards and they are all Harvard lawyers.

 

Dude, just ignore him. When you address him at all he starts pinching his nipples.

 

This isn't my first rodeo I'm truly laughing at my posts like a bad comedian. but thanks because if i didn't know better i really would be upset. the only serious responce is that he is missing out on appreciating something truly historic and for his sake i wish bhe could enjoy it.

 

If so, the military is smarter than the Brotherhood, which is a good thing.

 

I'm wondering how this affects Turkey. It's a secular democracy with a history of the military stepping in when the country seems to "stray off course" in their eyes, and my guess is that they think Turkey is in trouble. The Turkish military will be looking at events in Egypt with interest.

 

They wouldn't be in upheaval if there wasn't the extremist religious influence which is deeply rooted in all of their societies. That is the main danger for the future of these countries and what is holding them back. People want democracy and progress, but at the same time, there are these backward-oriented forces. All-encompassing Islam does not work with democracy. The only way these countries can ever become successful is if they radically separate state and religion, like Atatürk did. And even then, you will see fanatic ideologists like Erdogan come up and try to turn back the clock.

 

Obama's reaction to Mursi's ousting is weird. It seems to me that foreign policy is not his strength.

 

What if they end up electing another Islamist president? #akward

 

I hope they are smarter than that.

 

How so? The US has to walk a fine line here not to alienate major factions in Egypt. Obama basically said they wanted Morsi to cave to the original demands of the protestors and to replace his government and organize early elections - basically, an overthrow without the military part. The military aspect makes things tricky because, by law, the US can't support the new government as easily. But they never backed Morsi in the process and appear to be tacitly OK with the coup given that Morsi didn't do any of the things the US wanted. Now that the coup happened, the US is pushing for a quick civilian caretaker government to be put in place, which the military is claiming will be done. It seems that's exactly the role the US should play.

As it did in the previous coup, the US has to remain a non-partisan force that simply supports democracy - as part of that, we can't push a coup of a democratically elected President every time we disagree with him. Any sense that they are forcing things in one direction or the other is harmful in the longrun: Egypt has to be allowed to choose its own course and you have to trust their people to ultimately make the right decisions.

 

Yes, you are probably right. It's just that the US government is now saying it is "concerned" - personally, I think there is a lot less reason to be concerned now than when Morsi and his gang of criminal terrorists were still in power. But I do understand that the US government cannot openly say this, given the circumstances.

 

Each of these situations are unique. it kills mr that chicken hawks on fox say obama doesn't have a foreign policy. atw that is not directed at you. we saw what happened with the last administration and their one size fitts all policy. egypt is libya is not Syria

 

i find it amusing that people are openly cheering on a military coup---elections were fair and free. I don't care at all for Morsi and what he did after, but democracy doesn't work by shuttering people with detestable views away. The military has shut down Muslim Brotherhood-owned channels, and has a history of torture and abusing state privileges for their own good. somehow, because they do it out of their own interest, that makes it alright.

Arrest warrants for Muslim Brotherhood leaders. That'll work well. What are the crimes they're accused of? are they going to be vanished into underground jail cells for years at a time, like they were before? How about we fight political Islam by jailing everybody who participated in a democratic process...that's good faith.

both sides have proven themselves to be utterly despicable, the military a bit more, especially given its' history. the only thing you can say is that whoever is out there is marginally better than Mubarak, but hell, I'm still 50/50 on that.

 

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...TV-channels-off-air,-police-arrest-crews.aspx

brilliant start to the constitution guys, a+++ all around

 

Had to be the first idiot (other than Mathloon) to show up.