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Cops shoot and kill dog

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ItsMyFault, Jul 2, 2013.

  1. BE4RD

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    Supposedly the cops sprayed the dog with pepper spray first.

    It lunged a second time, this time more violently.

    And that was that.
     
  2. krnxsnoopy

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    What I learned from this thread is that skunks are the baddest animals...
     
  3. SwoLy-D

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    link??? :confused:
     
  4. DFWRocket

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    Here's the first part of the video where the guy pulls up and you can easily hear how loud his music is - so loud that the guys videotaping the situation are making fun of him "bumpin"

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  5. Angkor Wat

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    I don't get it? Just because the owner was irresponsible, that justifies the killing of the dog? Seems like some have a "that's what he gets" mentality about this. It could have been handled better by all parties. Yea the dog jumped, mainly because the officer reached down, I'm assuming for its leash. And who knows if it truly was attacking because the dog got lit up before it even had a chance to attack. So you can say, if he doesn't go for the leash, the dog doesn't jump. Cooler heads prevail but they panicked. You can even see the owner trying to kick his dog away.

    I thought guns were only to be used in life and death situations? I don't consider this one when you have other options like a night stick, pepper spray or even simply to kick him away. How about let the owner calm it down? At least try those before you let off rounds in a dog and watch him suffer while you point your gun at it.
     
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  6. ILoveWhiteGirls

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    If only dogs could shoot back, I'd love for the outcome to be something like this.

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  7. DCkid

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    Uh...that's kind of the point. Do you suggest waiting until a 100+ pound dog takes a bite out of you, potentially severing an artery before doing anything?
     
  8. tim562

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    Repped +1
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    gotta love the arm chair keyboard warriors theories on how they would have handled it. I imagine half of those posters can't even pour a cup of coffee without spilling some, yet they have the skill to tactically take out a dog in a stressful and dangerous environment.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    of course, because the dog's life is more important than human life.
     
  11. Duncan McDonuts

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    Shooting the dog wasn't justified because of the idiot owner. It's justified because of the cop's point of view. Guns are drawn, SWAT team is deployed for a life or death armed robbery. Inserting an aggressive dog that is unsecured adds to the dangerous situation.

    The cop went for the leash in an attempt to gain control of the dog. The dog, by instinct, bared its teeth and jumped. The cop TRIED AGAIN, and when the dog jumped again, that's when it was shot.

    You can also say if the cops didn't try to restrain the dog, they would be attacked. You can also say that the owner kicking the dog would make it more aggressive.

    Guns were drawn because an armed robbery is a life or death situation. Dog attacks can be a life or death situation. Dogs can continue to attack despite being kicked or hit by blunt objects. Pepper spray could work to send the dog running, but how do you suggest controlling it then? The dog would act unpredictably, and with an armed robbery being defused by the SWAT team with bystanders that include women and children, that seems like a smart idea to unleash an unpredictable rottweiler.
     
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  12. ILoveWhiteGirls

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    Not keyboard warriors but dog owners who are experienced in handling these types of breeds.
     
  13. droopy421

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    Fixed that for you.
     
  14. ILoveWhiteGirls

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    Having a rottweiler in this situation is a swat stand-off?
     
  15. droopy421

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    Try thinking outside the box and looking at more of what is happening than the dog.
     
  16. ILoveWhiteGirls

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    I don't know what's happening, the video just states cops shoot and kill dog. That's the context that I was working with?
     
  17. heypartner

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    I see that point. Seriiously, not wanting to get in an argument and blame the cop. And sure the shooting is justified. But I doubt the majority of cops handle it that way.

    For instance, isn't shooting off two rounds of a pistol during a hostage situation something that might make the scene go explosive. Couldn't the assailant think the cop is shooting at him.

    I once saw on the Simpsons 50 cops start shooting unnecessarily because someone made a loud noise.
     
  18. droopy421

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    If you watch the video you can see SWAT and LAPD officers everywhere, barking orders over a megaphone during an armed robbery call. If you can't notice in the video the dog owner purposefully rolls up blaring music, and you can see the cops turn several times to tell him to stop... Actually just read the rest of the thread. No need for me to regurgitate everything that has been stated numerous times.
     
  19. heypartner

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    Hey, partner! What's up!
     
  20. Angkor Wat

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    But he didnt attack until the cop tried something. If the dog was in full attack mode, he would have bite the one of officers right away after he jumped out. But as you can see, the dog was hesitant as he approached the group. I think the simplest way to diffuse that situation was to let the owner take care of the dog. It's not like the owner was going anywhere, he wasn't resisting arrest.

    It's not like it was a wild, rabid dog. By the way he was hesitant and how mannered it seemed while walking, you can tell it was somewhat obedient.

    And I don't have a beef with guns being drawn, but shooting it, in this situation, is not exactly safe either. Luckily no innocent bystanders got hit with a stray bullet. Imagine if a kid or woman was accidentally shot. Over a dog? Would have been horrible. There is a reason why Cops are urged not to fire your gun (Espeically with people around) unless it is absolutely necessary and if you can, avoid not using it. Believe it or not, there are ways to diffuse a dog situation like this without shooting it. It's been done before, with wild, unobident dogs as well.

    What the hell was the end about? The dog already shot multiple times, quivering in pain and dying in front of his eyes, and he's still pointing the gun at it? Like the dog is going to jump up and still attack him, Hollywood villian style. Feel horrible for any kids that witnessed it.

    Look, I get it, the officer had to do what he felt was right. I just don't agree with it and felt it could have been handled better by all involved. We can keep arguing, but it's clear where we stand on this subject.
     

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