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Lin shooting 78% from 3's??!?! (Predict Lin's 3 Pt FG% Next Season)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PositivityDome, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. HTown5933

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    lol... Hell I don't know. Hard to keep up with the Lin bashers.

    But, it IS Larsv8 who has acquiring Millsap in his sig. So, I don't know.

    I'll read some BS about Lin and how terrible he is and refrain from responding, then, finally give in and post something.... didn't research it this time I guess.

    For whatever reason it's like this with all the Rocket PG's in recent years. I remember defending AB after the Ginobili injury. There were quite a few who were throwing him to the wolves too.
     
  2. gnozahs

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    This.

    This is the only thing I conclude every time I read a reply from RV6.
     
  3. hizzobbes

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    As I said in my post, I think he's capable or "solid" right now. Not all star level, sure, but he can get the job done with D12 on the court and he's still improving.

    LA is an attractive FA city but that still would require him to waste next season with the Lakers and then just hoping that things come together after a big free agency in 2014.

    Also, Lowry is good but I don't think he's getting every one in Lakers Land excited and they'd still be paying Nash 9.7mil that year. Rudy Gay... there's a reason that the second Hollinger got to Memphis he worked a deal to ship him out. Granger, love the guy but he's had some injuries and decline in his play.

    Melo would be exciting but again, there's going to be a lot of teams gunning for him, including the Knicks with his bird rights. Banking on Pau and Kobe to take significant enough pay cuts so they can sign 3 other big name free agents? Good luck.

    I get that you're convinced that the Lakers are a better situation and discussing it has just become asinine.

    I agree to disagree with you, sir.

    I think the Rockets are the best option.

    You think the Lakers are the best option.

    We'll see in a few weeks.
     
  4. RV6

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    No, it does not. You are completely dismissing the fact that, as players get closer to peaking, they don't improve as much. That's a fact for any player. You might as well say Parsons will avg 21 pts, shoot 51% Fg, 43% from three, and 90% from the Ft line this season. That's in line with his historical growth rate.


    It makes perfect sense.

    It doesn't justify it, meaning i don't think it's correct to overpay players just because they are vets or whatever, but it also explains it because pgs were commonly overpaid during the period. So, we know why they were overpaid, but that doesn't make it right or the correct move for teams to make.

    And, actually, yes, the salary is structured in a way that allows players to earn more money as they go along. They don't have to though, like Ray Allen.


    So, Kobe is going to do what the Lakers want, even if he hates the idea? C'mon, now, that's ridiculous. Kobe is not that type at all. Leave that to the role guys and rookies. Franchise players speak up against the front office more than any other kind of player. He hardly keeps his mouth shut when he disagrees with something, so he sure as heck isn't going to say the opposite of what he means.


    No i did not.







    By solid i meant a solid starting point guard by playoff standards. I know made the distinction at some point, but i guess I didn't keep it clear enough as i kept replying.

    The playoffs are a whole other monster. From rookies to superstars, they all say how much the play, focus, and intensity changes from the season to the playoffs. Is Jeremy a solid pg for us now? Yes. Is he solid enough to handle the playoff pressure of an extended playoff/championship run? I don't think so. I know people will read that as me saying he's incapable of ever dealing with it, but that's not what i'm saying. I'm saying he's not there yet and he's not just going get there by working hard over an offseason. He's going to have to be battle tested, much like all the other guys in the league. Even Harden was terrible in the finals last season. Was he a solid player? Yes. Was he solid enough to know how to deal with what Miami did on the biggest stage in the NBA? Apparently not, but he has more playoff experience now that most guys have after several years in the league. Lin has, what, 2 or 3 games? And those games weren't even the type to boost his confidence.
     
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  5. HTown5933

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    I agree completely that the playoffs are a different monster.

    However, there ARE regular season GAMES that are played with playoff intensity.

    Is it the same as a playoff series, no.

    But again, this guy's work ethic is such that's he's been able to be successful at every level, including the NBA (albeit "just" the regular season at this point).

    I've been watching the NBA a LONG time (about 40 years) and regardless of what all the statistics say (some of which are good for Lin, as I've pointed out, others not as much), the eyeball test tells me he CAN handle the NBA playoffs.

    He was playing fine, although he didn't get his early shots to go down, in game one, until the two late turnovers. Then, it snowballed - like it did for the entire team. There were several times in game one until a few minutes to go in the first half where I was thinking how proud I was of "these young guys for competing with the Thunder in OKC", in what was a first playoff game for many. This included Lin, who made some nice plays on both ends. Contrary to what some believe, he wasn't overwhelmed by the moment. The "speed" of the game wasn't too much for him. That's not saying he was completely prepared - the turnover at the end of the half would have been called a foul in the regular season, but not in the playoffs. Would he have adjusted had he not gotten hurt? We don't know. You think not. I think so.

    He was playing better in game 2, before running into Sefalosha.

    Unproven. No doubt. But, there's no reason to believe he can't be a SOLID contributor on a team where he's the third or fourth best option - yes, including in the playoffs.

    We may get the opportunity to see which of us are right. Or, we may not - and he's moved to improve our PF spot after we sign Dwight. Either way, it's still an exciting time to be a Rocket fan.
     
  6. hubeijames

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    Which PG who is a proven, solid producer in a playoff scenario are you going to get for under $10 mil/yr?
     
  7. recboil

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    haha, this is a waste of time. you're arguments are becoming concentric and you find new excuses that have no basis and show a lack of industry and bball knowledge.
     
  8. recboil

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    please proof read your posts. they're extremely hard to read/poorly written. makes your arguments barely legible/credible. thanks
     
  9. mike_lu

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    Lin was 18/8 per 36 min in the last 2.5 months shooting 44/40. Tell me how much more he needs to do to be considered solid?

    If you look at his improvement trajectory over the season (even taking into consideration his injury), would you not say that even if you don't think 18/8 per 36 on 44/40 is solid, that he wouldn't require two more seasons to become solid?

    What do you think solid is? How do you define improving? Do you think Lin needs to get to 22/10 shooting 46/42 per 36 to be considered solid?
     
  10. Horry4theWin

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    I kept ignoring this thread until today because I thought I would open it up and the OP would say he was shooting that percentage with him in NBA2k. Luckily it wasn't that stupid.
     
  13. mike_lu

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    For a second, I thought you're a Lakers fans.

    But then again, the ABJ crowd would prop up any PG or now any other team to make their point. Gasol is on the block. Kobe may never be the same (but still wants 3-4 years), the owner is replaced by a teen, the coach sucks, the Lakers haven't had a recent history of getting good role players, the PG spot had been manned by Derek Fisher, Steve Blake etc recently, and LOWRY isn't a big upgrade on Lin and would cost as much, and there is no guarantee top free agents will want to sign on with a b****ing old Kobe who might never be the same player still thinking he's #1 ... And you still think this is a better situation that the Rockets?

    The only conclusion ... You're either a Lakers fan or another one of the ABJ group.

    And you sound like Carmelo and JR Smith b****ing about Lin's salary.

    If you're purely talking about tenure in the NBA (and minutes played), as when you said Lin is effectively just a second year player, go b**** about Omer Asik who similarly did not play many minutes before the CBA allowed for the poison pill.

    And Melo leaving the Knicks? Amare on zero legs? Gortat? The traded for peanuts Gay? The played behind Calderon (and didnt do much even after Calderon was traded away Lowry)? Granger is good, but we're not sure how he'll recover from injury. Lebron? Ha ...
     
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    I love clutchfans. Every time I read "ABJ" I get a good laugh.
     
  15. Fighton

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    Put up 45 after 7 at the half. the pg on the other team was scott machado. won in OT but got posterized on a dunk by drew gordon.
     
  16. Aleron

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    Wait a second, did he say the Lakers have a more flexible point guard situation?

    Than Lin on the same duration but cheaper contract than the corpse of Steve Nash and Beverly on peanuts with non guarantees for 2 more years?
     
  17. Horry4theWin

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    oh ya I know,

    Here's the videos of Lin putting his team up by 2 and then Machado tying it for the OT.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/GbPA71aYLMk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/hX6hGjx8jcE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  18. Horry4theWin

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    First pro-am game in the bay & look who I ran into @Jlin7 & @diamonsimpson

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