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Rockets have been offered a 1st round pick for Thomas Robinson (UPDATE: So much for "imminent")

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by redhotrox, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. Fyreball

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    Once again?? Who else have the Rockets discarded in a chase for Dwight? If you're referring to Lowry, then I think all signs were pointing to a parting of ways there regardless of the Dwight situation. And besides, in acquiring the assets that would be amicable to Orlando, we put together a deal that landed us Harden. I think every single person would agree that Harden is far more valuable to the team than a single piece they traded away in order to obtain him.
     
  2. treyk3

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    The correct answer is Luis Scola.
     
  3. mollamar

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    Amnesty of Scola I think should count there as well.
     
  4. Fyreball

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    As far as I remember, that had nothing to do with Dwight, and had everything to do with getting under the luxury tax level.
     
  5. monster

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    I'm just guessing, but I think Trob is going to turn into a better than decent player. We'll see. He doesn't seem to fit our plan, so I can live with losing him, but we may hear from him again.
     
  6. treyk3

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    I thought it was related to being able to take on more salary in the trade if it were to happen because none of the parties had interest in Scola at that money.
     
  7. davidio840

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    Another reason we got rid of Scola is because we had like 4 PF behind him that needed playing time
     
  8. Fyreball

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    I'm sure the idea was that IF Morey was able to obtain Howard in a trade, then he wanted to have the flexibility to be able to take on whatever bad contracts the Magic wanted to send our way (within reason). However, if Howard was not going to be a reality, then I'm quite certain Les Alexander had no intention or desire to pay luxury tax on a team that had peaked at 9th in the West 3 seasons in a row. Scola was very much a victim of circumstances, and while he was beloved here, I think it's a little melodramatic to blame our pursuit of Dwight as a reason why he's no longer a Rocket. Realistically, Scola at his age and salary had no business being on this team beyond 2 seasons ago.
     
  9. BEAT LA

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    I don't think the scola amnesty had anything to do with Dwight. Why would they amnesty him when they don't have a deal?
     
  10. cbk41

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    One can't make a deal if you don't have the cap room. And deals fall through all the time.
     
  11. Arthurprescott2

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    Sorta sad... hate to see a young player just thrown about the league like this. Hopefully he finds a place where he can develop properly soon.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    The Scola amnesty was VERY MUCH tied to the Rockets' pursuit of Dwight Howard (and other star players) last summer. Remember, there is a very limited window in July of each year during which a player may be waived using the amnesty provision. It's not like the Rockets could wait until a deal was in place before amnestying Scola. Removing Scola's $9-10 million salary from the cap created plenty of room to pursue a star player, either in free agency or via trade.

    The Rockets were nowhere near the luxury tax level last summer and won't be again until 2014-15 at the earliest.
     
  13. Commodore

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    mods, please delete any negative T-Rob posts until after he is traded, never know who is reading Clutchfans
     
  14. Arthurprescott2

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    Moreover, he's got to lug his kid sister around too. Lotta responsibility for such a young kid - hope he finds a stable situation soon.
     
  15. mollamar

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    Last 2 seasons with the Rockets:
    FG% TRB PTS PER WS

    FG%:0.504, RB: 9.0, PTS: 20.2, PER: 18.4, WS: 5.5

    FG%:0.491 RB:7.5, PTS: 17.9, PER: 15.4, WS: 3.4

    His production was not dissimilar to, say, Carl Landry and nor was his contract. So I guess one could argue that his amnesty was so that we could clear room for PatPat and Morris, but I think in reality it was so that we could take advantage of cap room and the benefits of being under the cap. Part of that was the pursuit of a major free agent.
     
  16. Old Man Rock

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    This is such a thoughtless statement that many spew out here. Sac dumped Robinson for the long contract. Yeah if he had played outstanding they may have not done it. But they are a dump salary think later type of franchise or at least have been. As for the Rockets, yeah they are giving up on him for Dwight Howard. I think every team out there would give up their rookie from last year for Howard. That's not a reflection on Robinson. The Rockets would certainly take a longer look at him if there are no great free agents or great trades to happen for him.

    Robinson is a top lottery prospect in this draft and teams know that and will be happy to get him for a mid first pick. Yeah his a risk but he is not a knucklehead and has athleticism off the chart. I team like San Antonio is smart enough to know that he could be perfect with an aging cerebral Duncan along side. They instantly become more athletic with Kawhi and Robinson and Duncan in the middle.

    Robinson will do well with the right team. Those teams know that.
     
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    At least he is getting compensated well for his tour around America. ;)
     
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    It's a BR article, but would work if you modified the original proposal so that the Rockets wouldn't take back Cory Joseph's incoming salary -- that, or send Cory Joseph to the Cavaliers instead of Aaron Brooks and the Spurs could still receive C.J. Miles.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-draft-day-trades-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers
     
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    that is the exact reason not to give Trob to a Texas rival.
     
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    That appears to kill any hope of packaging Royce in the deal or so it would seem...

    So if it's a Cavs trade Chris Quinn, Kevin Jones, and CJ Miles have fully unguaranteed contracts for 2013-14. I don't think they'd move Miles though.
     

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