Old. _______________________ Sam Amick - former Sacramento reporter(where did this he's 'Pro-Lakers' come from?) Sam Amico - Fox Sports Ohio; often guessing, knows nothing.
Doesn't matter what you think. Hate to say it like that, but that's the best way to say it. Part of my point here is that not all opinions are the same. When H-Town says to me "in too deep," that's a signal to me he doesn't know the stats as well as I do. So am I going to value his opinion over mine? No. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to give his opinion, just like the guy on the street has the right to give his opinion, but that doesn't mean they're fully informed on what they're talking about. And even if I don't think someone's opinion is as informed as mine, that doesn't mean I don't respect their opinion or respect their right to give an opinion. Lin has demonstrated more potential than Jackson has. That's the ledger. That's why there's probably no similar Nate Silver write-up on Jackson. If Jackson shows he can do more, I'm sure more notoriety will follow. My voice is a strong one. I know that. But part of why I can come down as strong as I do is because I know what I'm talking about, pretty thoroughly. If you come into a discussion and don't know as much, well, that might not work out well. It's not up to me to make sure you're prepared. If you start talking, you have to understand someone might challenge what you say. I'm ready for that. Maybe others aren't. I am here to provide factual information to rebut what I perceive as foolish arguments. There are a group of people -- the group I label the Anybody But Jeremy (ABJ) group -- who are dead-set on getting Jeremy out of Houston or demoted to back-up. Those people, I feel, often provide weak arguments for their opinion. I rebut those weak arguments, when I'm around and if I feel in the mood. Nothing more, nothing less. As I said, I would take Chris Paul over Lin in a second. Paul's not coming. We have a glaring need at PF. If you are part of the ABJ group and I'm around, well, we'll probably have a meeting of the minds. If you don't like that, too bad. My suggestion is bring your facts and be ready for a debate. I have come across many bullies -- individuals and groups -- in my time on the internet. They love it when things are going there way. Once things start going against them, however, then you might start seeing things like "Why is Jeremy Lin being brought up in an irrelevant thread?" Or other things that seem like similar signs of surrender in a debate. If you can't take the heat, don't come into the kitchen. If you come into the kitchen, don't complain about the heat.
JR: I have followed Amick's work for a long time. He is, and has been, very pro-Kobe (and thus pro-Lakers) for a long, long time. Not sure why, just have seen that to be the case. Maybe "Pro-Kobe" would have been better to say. He's from the Bay Area, grew up a Warriors fan, I believe. Went to college in Sacramento. Then I think he stuck around Sacramento after that. Now I think he's moved to LA.
i don't think cuban could sway d12 as much as parsons has been doing his own work.. but i still fear what cuban can do.
Lol dude, you sound like a self-righteous fool. There is no right and wrong in opinions. Your voice is not "strong", it's repetitive. Nate Silver's opinion doesn't mean a damn thing more than anyone else's opinion. All that matters is how the Rockets' front office evaluates their players, which you have zero insight to. And no, I didn't mention the irrelevancy in this thread because my ideals were "defeated". It was because I opened up a thread looking for more news about Howard and I see two damn pages about Jeremy Lin.
Thanks. I'm not here to play jerk or know-it-all. That's not my nature. But people have to understand not all opinions are of the same value or are equally informed. If they were, we wouldn't need Daryl Morey as GM. We could get Joe-On-The-Street for GM and his opinion would be just as valuable as Morey's. But Joe's opinion isn't as informed, and that's why Morey is the GM.
He does sound a bit self-righteous, I'll give you that, but that's probably better than sounding idiotic (not implying you sound that way). But I think when he said he has a "strong" voice, he simply meant an opinionated one, or one that did not hold back on his opinion. He then goes on to explain why he is so "bold" in his comments. I think a 'bold' voice would have been more apropos. Your comment about right or wrong opinions though is...frankly, wrong lol. Of course there are right or wrong opinions! It is a bit silly to say otherwise. SOME opinions may not have a right or wrong, example: the best color is blue, not green; but other opinions can absolutely be wrong, example: Lebron sucks at basketball. Silver's opinion can weigh more than others. Whether his opinion should weigh more than others' on Jeremy Lin and the nba remains to be seen. I haven't looked into it enough to make a better judgment call on that, but the possibility that a very good statistician who has a track record of being, well, correct when using mathematical models, does carry some sort of weight when he's looking at a player's stats, no? Rebuttal presumption, we'll say. All of us not having insight into the Rocket's FO is very, very true, and something we should all keep in mind. We not only have less access to certain information, but we may even have different priorities. In fact, I ASSUME we have different priorities. I also agree with you that it'd be more fitting to keep the Lin talk in another thread as it has become somewhat of a drawn out tangent at this point.
Spoiler Also don't have a problem with your content (not against Lin) but found your INTERNET hero language amusing.
That's wrong. That's why Morey is GM and you're not. And, for that matter, I'M not. Why? Because neither of us knows as much as Morey does. Which is to say, Morey's opinion is more valuable than yours or mine as regards the Rockets. You saw stuff on Lin because CP3 was one of the subjects in the thread. When CP3 became essentially "unavailable" with Doc going to the Clippers, then Lin got brought up. Not a real shock.
LOL. Yeah, the post was a bit overdramatic. I admit that. If you can't laugh at yourself, well, that's a shame. :grin:
What it is happens to be is a complete derail of the thread. If you want to discuss Jeremy further, why not post in the endless threads about the fellow, or start yet another one yourself? There is no reason to turn this thread, which is not about Jeremy Lin, into another endless discussion of the man. With all due respect.
yes, please keep the jlin debate in the other threads please just give JR some space to share his magic with us.
This is both right and wrong at the same time. In theory it is right, but in practice it is wrong because people misuse the the concept of an "opinion." You can't have an opinion on things that matters of fact. If you state something as your "opinion" when facts state something else, your opinion is wrong. In reality though it wasn't an opinion to begin with, it was simply a false belief born out of stubbornness or ignorance. (I said ignorance not stupidity)
It was started by someone suggesting we get andre miller by trading away asik. Any discussions of point guards will lead to lin talk. The existence of trolls (who admit to not watching most of the games) will not have it any other way.
You think discussion about the team's current PG in a thread about a free agent center and PG teaming up, which would effectively end the tenure of the current PG, is derailment? Would discussing the value of Asik to the team in a thread about potentially signing Dwight Howard also be a derailment?
I answered comments about Lin when he was brought up. Then answered responses to those comments. I'm happy to move on now. However, feigning that Lin isn't likely to be brought up in a thread which has CP3 involved -- with the implied theme of CP3 coming to Houston TO REPLACE LIN -- seems disingenuous. When it became clear that CP3 -- one of the subjects of this thread -- was not going to be available, those who wished CP3 would have been our PG spoke up. And, not surprisingly, they mentioned Lin. I responded to that. Again, I don't think any of this is a surprise and certainly not a "derailment" of the thread. Honestly, I don't like to talk about myself a lot. And I'm not into measuring contests, either, if you get my drift. However, when I have a point to make and feel I'm right, then I will make it. That's what I did here, and that was about it. Life, and the thread, moves on.
