Rockets have been offered a 1st round pick for Thomas Robinson (UPDATE: So much for "imminent")

I think it goes like this: Then Lakers can sign Howard any time the 2 of them come to an agreement. Once signed, they can trade him. If all this happens before Thursday, then the draft pick we get for TRob & #34 could be included in the trade with Asik & Lin. I don't see this happening as Howard wants to check out his FA options & he can't do that if he signs a new contract or extension.

 

I think his character issues are way overblown. He may still be a little immature in some ways, but it's not like he's some brat who feels entitled or doesn't want to put in the work.

Remember, he's a kid playing in a professional league with men and coaches who demand discipline, in which quite naturally most 18-19 year olds would make a misstep or two.
Replace Schroeder with any college player and put him in the same situation and I'd be shocked if the same questions weren't raised about at last 80% of them.

I may be biased being German and all (not a huge fan of Ohlbrecht, though, FWIW), but I believe Schröder is one of the better prospects in this draft and I probably like him better than any other Euro prospect, though to be frank -- aside from a game or two -- I've only seen highlights/DX scouting report videos on all of them.

I probably could talk myself into Karasev, but his defense and lack of athleticism scares me. Not sure how well he'll translate. He's like a SF version of D-Mo -- without athleticism.
Adetokunbo is intriguing, certainly, but I see more Austin Daye than Kevin Durant, personally. Honestly, though, who knows with him. You may have a guess of what kind of player he might be able to become, but projecting an NBA player based on competition against D3 level seems pretty impossible. Very well might be worth a flyer.
Gobert got me excited seeing highlights about a year or so ago, but it turns out he has a terrible feel for the game, which is something I think is really important.
You know who also has great tools, but a terrible feel for the game? Thomas Robinson.

 

Count me in on Giannis Adetokunbo... The kid is so raw but so athletic. ANother year overseas will help him.

 

Lakers cannot sign him to a new contract any time. At this point, the only thing the Lakers can sign him to is an extension, totaling 4 years, including the current season. So, if they did that, Dwight would only have 3 years on his new deal. Also, if they extend and trade him, the extension can only be 3 years including the current season. That would essentially be a 2 season deal. Dwight isn't going to agree to either of those. He wants at least 4 fresh years.

As far as a sign and trade goes, there are basically 2 types of sign and trade transactions:

1. In one sign-and-trade transaction we have say $18 million of cap space and Dwight signs for $20.5 million so we send out a $2.5 million salary player to the Lakers and use the rest of our cap space to take Dwight in. That is a "using cap space" sign-and-trade. It's what teams that operate under the cap can do as long as after the trade they are no more than $100,000 over the cap (projected to be $58.5 million).

The only reason the Rockets would have for doing this type of trade is if the Lakers were willing to do it and the Rockets were able to retain more assets on their roster than if they had to clear cap space by giving away other valuable players for pennies on the dollar. That is not likely at this point. Because the Lakers would want a young rookie contract most likely and we've already found a deal for TRob that gives us cap space and some sort of other asset back as well.

So if we are going to use cap space to sign Dwight we are most likely just going to sign him outright. And this is the most likely possibility for us since we know we are trading TRob and we already have a deal for him.




2. The second type of sign-and-trade transaction is a sign-and-trade that doesn't use cap space but instead using the trade rules for teams at or over the cap. Under those rules we could send out $15.5 million in salary and take back a re-signed Dwight at $20.5 million. The benefit to us would be that we would not have used our cap space while at the same time we are filling our salary cap, which means we are still eligible to use the full MLE ($5.25 million) and the other exceptions to sign free agents.

This type of sign-and-trade would benefit us if we could send out junk, basically a lot of non-essential non-guaranteed contracts plus TRob in a larger simultaneous transaction with multiple teams. While this is still possible if Morey hasn't collected a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts by June 30th it is highly unlikely. But never say never until it is impossible with Morey.

As I am watching this TRob situation unfold I am still wondering if Morey is going to attempt this. First of all if the Boston deal goes down, I have no doubt we're getting back their 3 non-guaranteed deals. That's a start. The next indicator is if one of Brooks or Delfino is still on the roster after June 30th. Morey has already said they're not picking up their options. If they switch course on June 30th, it means they've got another team lined up to trade them to. So a sign-and-trade is still in play.

There's simply way too many unknowns at this point. The odds of us acquiring Dwight are pointing to outright signing right now but that could still change drastically as the draft unfolds and free agency starts..especially with the Chris Paul situation unresolved.

We'll know a lot more on June 30th. But this could be a looooooooong summer. And if Dwight actually comes to Houston it might take well into September before the deal is actually done.

 

No more NBA ready players!!!

 

Rockets wont trade TRob for 10-30picks, why should they?

 

ummm... to free up space for dwight howard?

 

like 1M? If Dwight really want to get rings he can accept less salary, if not - screw him. There is a lot of better options than cry baby with terrible FT shooting, who don't care about teammates and is kid in big pants. Right?

 

I have my doubts about this rumor. What team would want t-rob before they know who is going to be available to them. What if a player they thought would be drafted higher slips to them? I call BS

 

T-Jones have shown so much more potential then T-Rob so I'm all for this.

 

Adetokunbo would be great - has the hands of Otis Thorpe, the height and position of Horry, the wingspan of Yao Ming, the athleticism of Steve Francis, the Nigerian heritage like Olajuwon and his name rhymes with Mutombo :grin: What more do you want??

 

Dear Morey, please have any player on your wish list undergo a psychological evaluation before you draft them. If they won't talk to a shrink, do not select them under any circumstances.

 

Haha Carl = spears bahhhh haha

 

This is what I wanted to come in here and post.

Tools.

 

Try 3.5 million. Drafting a euro stash wouldn't count against the cap at all. Big difference.

 

It sheds all of Robinson's salary if you draft an international player who stays overseas.

That said I want to keep TRob and we better get Dwight

 

Hey Dwight, are you watching how Morey gets #### done when it needs to get done? Unlike the bumbling Clippers with their crazy scheme to sign DR.

 

Yeah, I actually still believe in TRob, but I just don't see anyone on the team that's making close to what he's making that's a better option to clear space (excluding Royce White because he's untradable).

After shedding defino, brooks, and Garcia, there's only Jones and DMo; neither of which make as much as TRob, and both of which have just as much potential if not more. You get virtually nothing for letting Smith or Beverly go since they're basically minimum salary players.

There pretty much isn't another option other than TRob at this point. And it's pretty clear we need to clear around $3 or $4 mil to sign Dwight to the max.

 

Clippers are trying to sign Darius Rucker?!!