Rockets have been offered a 1st round pick for Thomas Robinson (UPDATE: So much for "imminent")

There are too many big fishes in 2014. No teams will trade the 2014 draft pics

 

That pick could be used to sweeten a sign&trade deal to get a DH or CP3.

 

It was still a good trade regardless. If the Rockets had Patrick Patterson right now, would they be able to trade him for a first round pick like they did with Thomas Robinson? I doubt it. Especially if it's a mid first round pick. Remember Patrick Patterson ($3.1M) has a much bigger salary cap footprint than a rookie.

Bottom Line: After all the wheeling and dealing, the Rockets may end up getting $3M cap space -AND- a mid first round pick out of Patrick Patterson.

 

Yes. But the key part is "our choices are limited". In a normal draft, when your target is gone, you can always pick the BPA. Not this time.

 

Yes,this is correct.

 

Great news. I too didn't know whether foreign 'stashed' players count against the cap. Very interesting.

 

But wait Carl, I thought TRob was worthless and that we were gonna have to give up a pick to get rid of him....

It was a huge mistake, right?

Of course Pat would have netted us a first rounder no problem

 

If HOU had Patterson, who is owed $3M instead of $3.5M owed to TR, the wise course would be to keep him since he is a guy who fits next to Dwight and get salary relief by trading the less NBA-ready guys like White, Jones and DMo.

Now my guess is that they still end up trading away some of these 2012 rookies for guys who are ready to contribute right now (like a Patterson-type spread 4 or a veteran wing in the Delfino mode).

 

I am relieved that someone in the NBA is dumb enough or desperate enough to take him for a crappy pick in a weak draft.

 

hoping for giannis, schroeder or kasarev in that order. used to be high on the brazillian kid but ive really cooled on him, and gobert as well to an extent.

 

Carl, Patterson was soft. He couldn't break the Kings lineup.

 

The player has to agree though. If he wants to play in the NBA this upcoming season the Rockets have to offer him a contract. This would rule out someone like Rudy Gobert.

I'm not getting too excited. This is Morey. Giving away a first round pick could be the price to move Lin's contract. Especially if they serious about the Dwight & CP3 gamble.

 

I see. You weren't wrong. It's that other teams are stupid and Morey got lucky.

 

Makes sense...

Not really.

Team do what is best for them. Teams are going to draft lesser players, or players that don't feel a need to screw over another team.

 

We can move the first round pick for a high 2nd rounder,and possibly a lower 2nd rounder.

 

Good news, anyone retweet this to dwight? "Hey dwight, friendly reminder well, we can offer you max now, kthxbye

 

It is not a weak draft in the range the Rockets would be drafting.

 

That's not what your mom said when Patterson broke her rotation.

As a matter of fact, though, your statement is not true. Patterson actually got into the Kings rotation and averaged 23 mpg, often in at crunch time as a King.

Robinson was the one who could not stay in the rotation despite the fact that HOU traded both its starting 4 and backup 4 and all he had to compete against were fellow rookies and Greg Smith (undrafted and barely played last season).

I was just making excuses. But let's not count our draft picks before they hatch. Just ask Clippers fans how things can change.

 

It would've been incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to trade those "less NBA-ready guys" for first round picks. Nobody in their right mind would trade a first round pick for Royce White. Also, trading BOTH Terrence Jones & D-Mo would yield less cap space than unloading Patterson. Not only are their combined salaries less than Patterson's, but they would require two cap holds on the roster instead of just one.

And for the record, the Rockets still don't have enough cap room to offer Dwight a max deal after this T-Rob trade. I believe they're still shy by about 700k or so. They'll need to ditch either D-Mo or T-Jones later, if they need to sign Dwight to a max contract.

 

lol... It amazes me that someone of Carl's stature (at least past stature) continues to be so short sighted that he fails to see the benefits of the trade.

I didn't like it much either. I lovd Patt. I loved how well he rotated defensively. Loved how he improved his game and was improving at being able to hit the three.

But, I DEFINITELY saw the pros and future benefits from it.

Do we really believe Morey doesn't think at least three steps ahead? Do we really believe he didn't know which player's trade value would be higher? If what Stein reports is true, the answer is no.

It's funny to hear some describe Robinson. Was he "lost" at times. Sure. Many rookies are. Did he show the potential to be an elite rebounder, yes. To say he has no offensive game is just wrong. He's extremely explosive. Now, whether he's able to harness and develop that is yet to be seen - and may even be unlikely. Still, Morey is far from the only one who saw potential in this kid.

There's no question D-Mo has the potential to be a better three point shooter than Patt. Possibly even T-Jones. But, none have the potential to be an elite rebounder, which is what we needed when Asik was off the floor.

Morey took a flier, while knowing we had one or two bigs that will LIKELY develop into AT LEAST as good as Patterson was, if not better - all while knowing he'd be able to get more for Robinson in a trade than Patterson.

No big deal. Carl continues to act like we'd have made it to the Finals with Patterson - or he'd be SO much better for us with Dwight. Just not the case.