1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Latest on what Lakers will do with Dwight

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jaychi, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. pwnyxpress

    pwnyxpress Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    1,730
    Likes Received:
    96
    Yeah...your comments are speculative at best. What team will be willing to take on Lin's $8.3M? And Asik's? And TRob's? Woj was already commenting about how there isn't that great of a market out there for TRob's $3.5M, and you think everyone is chomping at the bits for Lin? :p Asik and TRob most likely can be moved, but Lin? Not so much. If we throw in Parsons, yeah I can see him going, but that's a BIG GIVE imo. I would try hard not to do that.

    Also, you're forgetting that if we're just signing them both outright...we might have to move TJones and DMo for free as well. Not hard, but these are all extra steps to do. Most importantly, can we do all of this by around July 10??? Tons of teams aren't willing to make these moves for, say Lin, until they know where the big pieces are falling. After CP3 and Dwight sign, I have no doubt lots of domino pieces will fall into place...but before? Much harder said than done. Not impossible, but given that pretty much anyone who knows anything about this subject has said how difficult it would all be...I'm going to assume it'll be very difficult to do.
     
  2. YoungGods

    YoungGods Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    2,504
    Likes Received:
    22
    It will be a steal for the Lakers to trade Howard for Lin, Asik and Parsons.
     
  3. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,745
    Likes Received:
    132,120
    Yeah... Your just speculating as well. Asik is easy to move, he has great value, a number of teams would line up to take him and the Rockets would get picks in return. Lin's contract can be moved as well if the Rockets send picks. At absolute worst the Rockets ship out Parsons to make it happen.

    Further, not all the teams with cap space expect to get one of the 3-4 big fish available. Your point would be more valid if we discussing moving a player making 12-13 mil a season with no value, but that is not the case.

    I don't think Paul is following Howard to Houston, but if the Rockets are informed ahead of time they have the assets to make it happen.
     
  4. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,745
    Likes Received:
    132,120
    Yes it would.... and if the Lakers won't do it in a S&T a number of teams would jump at taking Lin and Robinson and getting Parsons... Although I don't even think Parsons would need to be included, draft picks, Donatas, Bev and or Jones would probably be sufficient based on the quality of players involved and the length of the contracts.
     
  5. pwnyxpress

    pwnyxpress Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    1,730
    Likes Received:
    96
    Sure, I'm just speculating too, the only difference is, I'm saying something that Morey has said and BimaThug has said, along w/ various other notables on Rockets-related podcasts (did Clutch say it as well? I forget tbh). So that sort of gives my end a bit more weight.

    And while not all teams w/ cap space expect to get the big fish, they might have their own FA's targets to tend to first; whether it be their own guys leaving or someone else they are targeting as their primary need. It just makes it tough because we have to move so many assets that make enough money to be cumbersome...in a very short window. Not to mention, the appeal of Lin's $8.3M on his player (as opposed to Asik's $8.3M) is rather questionable. Some teams might be very high on Lin...others might be very low. The GARM is split on Lin and his value at $8.3M; I don't think most other teams in the nba are that different.

    Of course sending out Parsons makes Lin's contract more palatable, but unlike you, I honestly do not want to give up on Parsons. If we're doing straight roster clears, I feel a bit uneasy having to literally give up on our whole team sans Harden to just have Dwight and CP3. We would literally only have those 3 players. Probably no Bev, definitely no TJones or DMo or TRob or Lin or Asik. Ack...just uneasy about that.
     
  6. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
    Umm..Lin+2nd round pick to Utah, they may take it? btw..did Utah hired a coach yet?
     
  7. pwnyxpress

    pwnyxpress Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    1,730
    Likes Received:
    96
    Not saying none exist. Just saying when your buyer's market is low, you got a real problem moving mediocre goods. Utah is one of the team's often mentioned as a landing spot for Lin if we need to move him (or maybe SAC or even DET)...but that doesn't mean they're so high on Lin they're willing to immediately take him off our hands.
     
  8. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
    I am apparently a Lin fan but I do not feel Lin is a mediocre goods being paid 8.3m considering his contribution to the team as a starting pg. But I have no intention to argue if it is your opinion on him. :)
     
  9. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171

    Milwaukee
     
  10. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
    brandon jennings?
     
  11. verysimplejason

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2013
    Messages:
    1,772
    Likes Received:
    407
    Blake and Bledsoe for Howard??? Wow! Instant reload/rebuild for the Lakers...
     
  12. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171

    Pretty sure they'd rather pay Lin $20 mil for 2 years than to pay Jennings $30-45 mil over the next 4 years.
     
  13. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,775
    Likes Received:
    41,190
    It would be less than $17 million for Jeremy.
     
  14. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
    he probably means the cash instead of the cap.
     
  15. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,775
    Likes Received:
    41,190
    I must be missing something. Jeremy's contract is around $8.3 million a year... cash, check, or money order.
     
  16. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
    umm...cap is 8.3m per year. cash, check, money order, direct deposit, wire transfer would be 5/5/15. :p
     
  17. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,775
    Likes Received:
    41,190
    No, that was the cap hit for the Knicks if they matched the offer from the Rockets. The Rockets cap hit is $8.3 million per year for 3 years, as is the cap hit to any team we might move him to. Clearly, you weren't reading the BBS while all this was coming down. Bima spelled it out long ago, and he wasn't alone in doing so. Do a search. If you can't search here, search on google. This isn't a joke. That was the beauty of what Morey did to the Bulls and the Knicks. He found a loophole in the CBA that no one else apparently noticed, and drove right through that sucker.
     
  18. Moonscope

    Moonscope Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    798
    Likes Received:
    52
    I think you're missing something here Deckard. pcheung08 is saying that the cap hit for Jeremy Lin for the Rockets or whoever he is traded to is $8.3 million per year. This is correct. The actual payments Lin will receive (which may be interesting to which ever owner might pick Lin up in a trade) is 5million first year, 5million 2nd year, 15million 3rd year (approximately).

    So when pcheung08 says - cash, check, money order, direct deposit, wire transfer - he is mentioning what the actual season payments will be, not cap hit.
     
  19. Ricksmith

    Ricksmith Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,299
    Likes Received:
    613
    Deckard, you are correct about the cap hit being 8.3 million, but their actual salary is 5/5/15. The cap hit is the only thing that matters, but Lin and Asik are still owed 20 million each.

    I'll double check and edit my post if I'm wrong, but I'm almost positive about it.
     
  20. cyberx

    cyberx Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2006
    Messages:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    7,875
    Sources today tell me this:

    The Lakers are changing their logic on how they are going to approach this situation. Originally the Lakers had the attitude that "we aren't going to go out of our way blah blah, we are the Lakers and we don't need to".

    They are now planning a full pursuit to make Dwight feel LOVED and NEEDED and WANTED. The whole 9 is going into play. They are going to "roll out the red carpet" I am told. They will give him promises and make him feel that this is HIS team. Dwight loved hearing this and is excited about it.

    Also, Phil Jackson may get offered an official position soon to help with this. Dwight TRUSTS Phil.
     

Share This Page