It is incredibly ironic to see a country built on illegal immigration not to understand the lure of opportunity for prosperity. Let's punish people for trying to better themselves. swell. You're not a fan of illegal immigration, but you benefit from it, and live in a country founded on the principle of illegal immigration that became legal. so I'd say, all in all, for you, it is a good thing. You're here now to testify to that.
must never have worked for Goldman, or McKinsey I need to frame this on one of those foreclosure mills.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>to recap, CBO says S744 will: 1) not stop illegal immigration; 2) raise unemployment; 3) decrease American wages. Where do I sign on!!!</p>— Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) <a href="https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/347308344563863553" data-datetime="2013-06-19T11:02:16+00:00">June 19, 2013</a></blockquote> <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You assume an unlimited carrying capacity within the 'environment'. The fact is that resources are always limited, including space and water. Borders are an attempt to organize and manage societies so that the populations do not overrun the host. On the macroscale, life is still a battle for survival of the fittest and lines are always drawn between us and them.
This would make sense if countries were organized according to carrying capacity of the environment, and the resources availible. As it is, they are clearly not. How else do you explain, for example, Canada vs. Japan? As it is, borders as they are currently constructed, are based on very irrational historical factors. Why does it have to be survival of the fittest? If someone is allowed to grow to their full potential does that not benefit themselves...and you? Immigrants build new businesses. They spend money. They create new industries (thank you H1-B) that natives alone cannot.
I fully agree. A massively inflated Democratic party with a radicalized Republican minority isn't good for the nation as we are seeing. Unfortunately the Nativist positions and paranoia over illegal immigration is just continuing that trend.
As a person who makes his living forecasting financial benefits 3-30 years out, I have to agree with Commodore that the forecast isn't worth much. But, I don't really need confidence in a positive NPV to justify fixing something that is obviously broken. If the fix is right, I'm okay with it costing something.
I would prefer this as well. You're going to need to get moving on this quickly, though, because things are getting worse by the week for the GOP. The GOP's response to the last election is the opposite one that people who actually want to win elections would adopt. I mean, when the GOP completely turns off the nation, the last person to turn to to fix that is Rand Paul. Rand Paul is part of the problem, for Christ's sake! If the sane cannot take control of the party, the sane need to leave the party.
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to hoodwink people (it's intresting since I do forecasting for my own venture, and for an established company, and it basically comes out to the same thing. There's a strength in numeric chaos that is good to have at presentations, at least)
So you are a proponent of not paying minimum wage and benefits for lettuce workers, dishwashers and construction workers? You are a proponent of this quasi-indentured servitude? I bristled at the argument to continue to allow people to continue to be abused and underpaid. Rocket River
As Yogi Berra says it is hard predicting things especially the future. Leaving aside the CBO forecast the idea that immigration, legal or illegal, is a net drag on the country is highly questionable. If anything there are more benefits to the economy overall by suppressing inflation and providing a fluid workforce. Further as Jeb Bush recently noted to maintain long term Social Security solvency immigration is needed since the native (and I use that term to mean people who have been in the country for more than one generation) population is decreasing. Also just building a wall will never work. The impetus for the business community in the US for a supply of immigrant labor is too great and for immigrants to come here and work.
Keep in mind many of those people actually don't work below minimum wage since the supply and demand curve of labor isn't quite that fluid but if these people are actually risking life and limb to voluntarily come over here how is it indentured servitude? Actually what often ends up putting people into slavery like conditions is that we put up so many legal barriers to easy access to the country. For example someone living in rural China has some very high legal hurdles to get to the US so instead they find a snakehead who brings them over illegally and forces them into sweatshops or worse. If they had a relatively easy way to get here they wouldn't need to go through a black market to get here.
