IRS targeted and infiltrated Christian Churches

They claim to have internal memos from Homeland Security initiating this activity. If so, lets see them. This seems pretty far fetched, tin foil helmet kind of stuff.

 

Church's are tax exempt for religious purposes not political ones. How would we know if they are engaging in non-exempt actions if we don't look at them?

 

You can't call it "scandalpalooza" and then act as though you are reserving judgment for when we learn what the evidence says. Is it really a scandal just based off of what some writer states on the Internet? I would think that there would need to be at least some credible evidence before it becomes a scandal.

Without a shred of evidence of any of these so called scandals other than supposition and innuendo, the perception will be that the capital should move from Washington to Salem. If the Republicans put as much effort into putting forth good candidates as they have into trying to take down the President, maybe the party would be in better shape.

 

I have a solution: take away tax exempt status for religions and they won't be under the scrutiny. Problem solved.

 

Are you seriously stating this? You believe it is perfectly acceptable for administrations to target specific groups in hopes of silencing their voice? You think its wrong to profile dark skinned people at airports in fear of terrorism but its perfectly acceptable to profile people you politically disagree with?

It really is scary how some peoples mind works. Profiling people today. Silencing their voice tomorrow. Imprison them next week.

And before bringing up the lame argument of them breaking IRS laws, this is about profiling, not breaking IRS laws.

 

Do you really think that the GOP is somehow creating these scandals? Considering the stranglehold that Obama has on the majority of media I would tend toward there actually being more to this (and the other 3 or 4 scandals ATM) than what we are hearing.

 

Mike Huckabee agrees with you....... sort of......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/mike-huckabee-churches_n_3428481.html

Mike Huckabee: Churches Should Reject Tax-Exempt Status

"I think we need to recognize that it may be time to quit worrying so much about the tax code and start thinking more about the truth of the living God, and if it means that we give up tax-exempt status and tax deductions for charitable contributions, I choose freedom more than I choose a deduction that the government gives me permission to say what God wants me to say."

Huckabee reiterated his stance in a Tuesday tweet:

It's time for churches to reject tax exempt status completely; freedom is more important than government financial favors.

 

I think it depends on which of these would-be scandals you're talking about. In the case of the IRS scandal it is almost entirely made up by Issa and the GOP. They have no evidence linking it to the White House. No conservative group was denied the status, some liberal groups were. Issa promised to release the full transcripts of the interviews they did (after he released on selected comments). But Issa didn't follow through and broke his promise. Then Democrat Elijah Cummings dared Issa to release the entire transcripts stating that they would refute the selected comments Issa released. Issa threw a hissy about it and wants to stop Cummings from releasing those transcripts.

It's clearly made up by the GOP. There is no stranglehold by Obama on the media.

 

I don't agree with Huckabee at all. I do not welcome the idea of churches politicking. While I am not one of those who feel churches and Christians are the scourges of America, I do agree many Christians are gullible and ignorant. Having pastors getting up in front of people week in and week out interpreting the garbage that comes out of the main stream media would be awful.

 

Stop trying to throw logic and reason into the cesspool. It's wasteful.

 

Obama has truly been a pitiful president.

 

I can respect that.

 

Do you think the IRS was in the wrong here? The Fox report linked here is an article that goes back 60 years about the IRS doing this kind of thing. It mentions MLK; it mentions one incident during the Bush admin. And it mentions one incident in the Obama admin. Looking at this latest one, the IRS investigated a Billy Graham's organization when they publicly politicked on a particular ballot measure to determine if it affected their tax status. Do you think that the IRS should have ignored this?

 

you don't say! where else are the conservatives going to hangout? at church repenting their same sex affairs, that's where! not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

You left out "unbelievable" and "continues on…"

 

You are talking about something completely different. Investigating an allegation is different than profiling a whole group in hopes to bust them.

If an organization, regardless of who, is violating the law, then it should be dealt with accordingly.

 

I may be talking about something different, but I'm talking about what the article says actually happened. Everything else is anonymous conjecture that the Examiner said they were unable to verify anywhere.