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Importance of culture cultivation in a team

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by verysimplejason, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. verysimplejason

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    I think most teams in the NBA today lost consistency and establishment of a culture, a system. Everybody just wanted a quick fix but reality is that to be successful, the right culture must be cultivated first along with the players and coaches. Heat and Spurs represent 2 different ways of building a team for championship but one thing that's consistent with them is that they established a culture or a system first, stick with, fire or get rid of anybody who's not into it and then comes the winning when everybody buys into it.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...ra-gregg-popovich-blast-turnover-nba-coaching
     
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    I have been arguing this point for many years. The Rocket's turnover has been off the charts. Even Yao and TMac had a different set of role players almost every season. Under Morey the "fruit basket" turnover approach has continued, maybe even accelerated. I want it to stop, let players get to know each other, develop a "Rocket's" culture, evolve a system, and stick with it. Tweaking is one thing, annual overhaul is another. Stop already.
     
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  3. dharocks

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    There's no point in developing a culture without a foundation.

    Annual overhaul got us Harden.

    Your argument is invalid.
     
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    and that's my argument against tanking - ever! ;)
     
  5. StevieFlight3

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    We have culture - Run, Run, Run. No plays.
     
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    You need talent. We don't have enough yet.
     
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    This. I couldn't have said it any better. Great post Solid.
     
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    This. I couldn't have said it any better. Great post dharocks.
     
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    You really wanted the 40 year old ex-Knicks rotation players to surround TMac and Yao in their primes?

    Or a Martin/Scola annual 9th seed foundation?
     
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    When your culture is a losing one, you push the reset button until it gets better.
     
  11. LoyalRocket

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    Very similar to our culture when Rudy T Coached our team....


    Run, Run, Run. Our only play...

    ....pass the ball to Hakeem lol
     
  12. 2016Champions

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    Pretty much. Led the league in 3's too.
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Anything less is flat out insanity.
     
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    That's slightly misleading since the Heat got lucky and anybody can establish a system once you have that. The recent winners like the Heat, Mavs - basically everyone except the Spurs and Pistons - have won a title with no consistency and no specific system, culture or whatever that developed over the years. The Rockets had it too and it started with the defensive foundation Chaney laid out, Olajuwon was the player that told management to get younger and since then we started to get better every year. After that though, it was quick fixes and quick turnover basically until we got Yao and JVG.

    We can start again now with Harden but you can make up a nice fantasy once we get Dwight or another star player and win a title that it was all because of the 'culture' and it would be total bull****. Leslie has said he wants the run and gun offense and thinks we can win titles with it. This is just not a winning type of basketball and with Morey's style of high turnover, which I think will continue, it will probably be 90% based on star players. Sure Morey contributed, no doubt, but not because we established a certain system or 'culture'. Just my opinion.
     
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    You need a solid core to cultivate a culture. Spurs had Robinson and Duncan.
     
  16. Roxlove

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    This is partly why the people who fixate on only one player, and root for the team to lose so that their favorite player can get traded soon to a more 'deserving team,' irritate me to no end.

    Those types of fans are also ruining the culture and integrity of the team, the fans of which are a big part.
     
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    Bro we haven't had any talent really worth keeping.. we had to keep turning the roster over to improve. Or we'd still be stuck with a Lowry/Martin/Parsons/Scola/Hayes lineup. I think sometimes you people would like that..
     
  18. conquistador#11

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    who needs cultivation when we apparently, according to all sofa gms, are going to have..
    Dwight
    Love
    Lebron
    Harden
    Paul

    by the end of 2014. Is that not a championship roster?
     
  19. RV6

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    Like everyone else said, we needed a solid foundation first and the stars are the foundation.

    That being said, we could have established a coaching foundation, at least.

    We still have Mr. Jones. I guess that's something :)
     
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    If Morey had solid role players like Gary Neal, Matt Bonner, Danny Green, Kawai Leonard on the team .... he would trade them for 2nd round draft picks in a heartbeat. Just sayin'. Some teams just know how to keep and develop players over the years.
     

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