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Sources: Dwight and CP3 hope to team up

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lancerthompson, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. larsv8

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    If the Lakers get Griffin by chance for a free agent walking away, I might end my life.

    Not only do I want Howard and Paul, I wan't both LA teams to get nothing in return. Its time for the Lakers and their annoying fans to spend some time at the bottom.
     
  2. pwnyxpress

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    Please read my earlier response. We would NOT have NO bench. We can keep GSmith and Bev. AND we keep our Room MLE. You're confusing it w/ the normal MLE and bi-annual that we would have to renounce. And you don't need a 15 player squad -- that is just the max. You only need 12.

    An alternative, ATL, would create a situation that is just as empty for the bench btw.
     
  3. Skyhoop

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    Yes, you're correct about the room exception. It was the other two MLE's and not the Room MLE that had to be renounced.

    If CP3 and Dwight don't take paycuts, you'd have to let go of Beverly and Greg Smith as per the ESPN article. DMo/TJones also make more than an empty roster charge, quite a bit more since they're 1st round picks. So they'd have to go too.
     
  4. Johndoe804

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    Not eligible because he was a new contract signed after the new CBA.
     
  5. khanhdum

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    players would flock to the Rockets for a chance to win the ring. I bet it'll be easier than we think to put a workable bench together. Not to mention with cp3, harden, parsons, and howard will play a lot of minutes anyways and we can stagger to have 2 of those players to play at all times with our bench.

    If we can get an agreement that both will sign here if we clear up room, I think it'll be easy to move Asik (overplaying his contract currently), and Lin might be a bit harder but he really did have a good push after the all star break and could potentionally be a cash cow in an asian populated city.

    trob just move him for scraps and then booom, all the part is done and let's start our own cruise ship celebration.
     
  6. Skyhoop

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    The roster charges are only if you're under 12, but I'm assuming that after signing both, Morey will bring the Roster up to 15 via the use of Vet Min Exceptions. So it would be 11 minimum contracts on a 15 squad assuming only Harden and Parsons remain because CP3 and Howard want all of their money.
     
  7. pwnyxpress

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    First off, internet fail. It was an earnest question. Re-read the post now w/ that mindset.

    Second, the problem here is they can't SIGN both CP3 and Howard this summer. Even if we assume Mayo opts out and DAL does not pick up ANY of their non-guaranteeds or restricteds, that leaves them with Marion most likely staying (he isn't making more on the outside market).

    So that is $37.2M for 5 players. I don't see how another $39.2M can fit into that (whopping $76.2M!). Also, don't forget the roster charges of $490k each that I did not even factor into the above. They can barely afford 1, much less 2, while keeping Dirk. Next biggest contract is Marion at $9M, but that is HARD to move, and even IF they moved it for free, I still don't see them fitting both under the cap this summer.
     
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  9. pwnyxpress

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    Dude, why do you keep ignoring Bev and GSmith, which we can fit under the cap while offering maxes to Dwight and CP3? And who cares about how many vet mins Morey adds AFTER we have our 12? Those are optional, and most nba rotations are 9 players, not 15 lol. Benchwarmers are called benchwarmers for a reason.

    So that is CP3, Harden, Parsons, GSmith, Howard...Bev (6 players)...then 6 vet mins. We also keep our Room MLE, which we can use on Garcia, who said he wants to come back and is willing to take less (how much less iunno).
     
  10. IgotNext

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    Lin and Asik(plus fillers) to lakers for Dwight

    Sign cp3 straight up. ( we have nothing to offer clippers that they don't have)

    Don't both Atl and Dallas have money to sign both outright?( I get lost with other teams financial situations)..... Point being, didn't that report say they are talking back and forth to figure it out. What would there be to figure out if a team can sign u both..... I like to think, they are talking ROCKETS. :)
     
  11. The Cat

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    DING DING!

    http://tinyurl.com/mg2b6pe

    I actually wrote about that this morning (see above)... Dwight going solo to the Rockets is the worst-case scenario for Paul. When he seriously looks at his options independent of Dwight, which he's doing now, there's not a single one that could win a title next season. More than anything, this is a desperation ploy from Team Paul -- and maybe, just maybe, it'll work to our advantage.
     
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  12. ooox

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    Lakers are not going to ruin their 2014 plans for Lin and Asik.
     
  13. pwnyxpress

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    Not true. We'd have to move DMo and TJones, but GSmith and Bev can stay.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/houston-rockets-team-salary

    Slightly higher cap, so Harden is now $13.8M

    13.8 + .9 + .8 + .9 + 20.5 + 18.7 = 55.6.

    6 x .49 = 2.9 ... 55.6 + 2.9 = 58.5 = the cap

    Now that only leaves White's stretched salary of $500k. Are you saying, between CP3 and Dwight, they would NOT be willing to take a ~$250k hit to their salaries to sign together w/ Houston? And allow us to keep GSmith? If not, then I guess we have to let GSmith go, but we keep Bev. But come on, that is just a non-reality. They'll take a $250k cut...
     
  14. Kruze10

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    Anyone have ESPN insider can post the Pelton article "Where could D12, CP3 Team Up?"

    Just interested in what he says about Houston. Will rep.
     
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    You have to move everybody out except Harden and Parsons to give both guys max deals.

    If they want to take slight paycuts, you can probably keep Beverley and Ohlbrecht as well. But that's if both guys agreed to take around $700,000 each less than their maxes.

    You can trade TRob and drop James Anderson and sign Paul outright. It's a lot easier to sign Paul outright than to sign Dwight outright. If we did that then the clock starts on the Lakers. They either agree to a sign and trade or we start moving out the other guys to clear cap for Dwight.

    And yes, Lin/Asik would have plenty of value. I'll bet you a dollar to donuts Boston would trade you Rondo and one of their guards for Asik/Lin/TJones. You could then flip Rondo and the guard straight to Utah....or Milwaukee....or....New Orleans.....for cap space, first and second round picks in this draft and future draft picks. Rondo and one of Terry/Lee would be a perfect fit for Utah or Milwaukee either one. Then you've got Greg Smith and DMo to move out. Easy, easy. More picks.

    By the time the Lakers saw this scenario unfolding, they'd be begging for a S&T. But by the time we get there, the only S&T we could do would be to give them possibly Greg Smith and a couple future second rounders and a huge TPE for signing and trading Dwight to us.

    And if they didn't budge......just move everybody else out and sign Dwight outright. We'll have multiple second rounders in this year's draft plus multiple future draft picks to build out from plus we can bring back Garcia or Delfino for our small ball lineup.

    If Dwight/CP3 are a unit, and Morey wants that unit, he can make it happen relatively easily.

    Paul/Beverley (re-signed)
    Harden/Anderson (re-signed)
    Parsons/Garcia or Delfino
    Dwight/Whitesite
    draft pick/draft pick

    plus a couple minimum salary guys.

    That's worst case scenario.


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  16. Rockets_12

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    To be honest, I am predicting CP3 to stay in Los Angeles with the Clips and Dwight to come to Houston. This would result in the Clippers obtaining Pierce/KG somehow and us trading Asik and T-Rob to the Lakers in an S&T for Dwight.
     
  17. J.R.

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  18. pwnyxpress

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    If CP3 re-signs w/ LAC, we would not SnT for Howard w/ Lin and Asik. We'd just sign him outright.
     
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    There is even more onus on Morey to pile up non-guaranteed contracts by June 30th. Spend the cash, pile up non-guaranteed contracts that we can flip in 60 days.....just in case both of these teams see the light and both finally agree to sign and trades.
     
  20. IgotNext

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    I hear that a lot but.... I don't think it would. Asik could be traded again if on lakers( his value should be high still, somebody is going to want to him) and they could make other moves I'm sure. WE are talking about the "all mighty" lakers here! :p
     

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