Did you check out my earlier link? With the salaries? I AM sure about the technicalities, and I explained it in my earlier response. No, they cannot have CP3/Williams/Horford/Howard with CP3 and Howard taking max. It is not physically possible. That would be 18.7 + 5.2 + 12 + 20.5 = 56.4 Now the reason why the Hawks board people are saying it is possible is because their math stopped there. They went, Oh look! 56.4 < 58.5! We can do it! They forget that there are minimum roster cap holds up to a 12 man roster. Those are the salaries for 4 players. Technically, they also have Jenkins on contract for 1.2M, but so really it should be 57.6M w/ 5 players, but we'll be nice and stick w/ the CP3/Williams/Horford/Howard scenario and pretend Jenkins was moved for free by himself (not happening). That's 8 roster charges at $490k each. That is $3.9M. 56.4 + 3.9 = 60.3M = over the cap. With Jenkins, it is 3.4M roster charges + 57.6M = 61M = over the cap.
they dont have to do it early...they can wait till deadline. They wont pay tax if they can get under the tax line by then...the date you have to be under the tax line is at the end of the year I believe. Not at the start of the season.
Wait, so you're saying it isn't against the cba for Dirk to somehow pretend the last yr of his salary doesn't exist, then re-sign w/ Mavs this summer for significantly less? I always assumed he meant NEXT summer. The former scenario sounds like quite a loophole that the cba would be designed to not allow lol.
But the lakers have to clear 20 million dollars to avoid 60-80 million in taxes. No team can absorb that kind of money in the middle of the season(minimum payroll) and all amnesties have to happen during the summer.
That is correct. Oh you meant move Pau later on. Yeah I suppose they could, for expirings, though their options by then might be quite limited, and it is a hefty risk. They have to assume they can find a team willing to do that during the deadline -- see the offers out for JSmith this past season? And the lack of movement? Teams are wary under the new cba to take on large contracts...esp. $19M ones. I mean it could happen, but I wouldn't go around betting on it. Also, Pau is really shaky coming from a surgery. Maybe he sucks up the first few months and his stock COMPLETELY tanks so even teams that CAN take him will avoid him like the plague. So if they can't, they're now stuck w/ a luxury tax bill that is almost the size of their super large salary...all for a low west seed and no chance at Wiggins. I just don't see that happening.
That is what I thought lol. So yeah, Dirk may be willing to take a large paycut NEXT summer, but he sure isn't doing it this one (when it matters for CP3/Dwight signing).
Lakers aren't going to ruin their 2014 plans unless they get a star in return, so stop with the Lin/Asik BS because it's not going to happen. However if the Clippers offered Griffin/Bledsoe, I think they will take it.
I also think a lot of these discussions are moot because if CP3 and Dwight really want to play together, I'll be damned if they aren't willing to take at least small paycuts of $1M each. Just so little for a much better roster/chance to win a title while playing together. Maybe even up to $2M each. That would just change the dynamics of everything...
If I was the Lakers, I think I'd be willing to trade Howard for Griffin. You might be able to make something worthwhile out of Kobe's last season. You can probably trade him again later if he's not the right piece to build around. You help the Clips, which is annoying, but so what? Lakers' window is closing fast anyway. I think Houston's approach can be a bit more sophisticated, which is maybe worth a snow-ball. You don't sign either guy until you have an agreement in principle in place with both of them. Then you put the Clippers and Lakers in a prisoner's dilemma of which one gets a S&T.
No your not thinking. They can always trade Lin again next year to clear capspace. He is a high risk high reward player. He could be better then what they get in 2014. Point is they wouldnt be better...not having a "draw" player next year. La would lose a lot in marketing. They have to put something interesting out there. Lin would be that. Lin will always be easily moved...specially after next year when he is an expiring contract. Asik would be important for them to get. Then T-rob is whatever...we could easily move him in another package. Lakers would take lin and Asik...they would thats just all there is to it. It would be far better then nothing and hoping players want to play in LA with no one else on the roster.
What is the 2014 plan without Dwight? Steve Nash, just him. Do they hope the entire Miami team signs with the Lakers or something? There is no 2014 plan without Dwight, at least not one that involves star players in free agency.
So that LAC, their hallmates and rivals can have CP3 and Dwight? You honestly think they will do that? I'm willing to put contributions in to clutchfans that say that won't happen.
Lakers can keep people in the seats while Kobe is recovering, with some Griffin showtime. Griffin will also be a tradeable asset in the 2014 FA sweeps.
The Rockets can move Lin and Asik..... So they are in a position to get Howard and CP3 if that is really what they want. I will remind everyone though that Broussard has been caught stealing other peoples scoops and passing them off as his own and the day before "The Decision" he said LeBron was staying in Cleveland.
He is clearly sticking to his guns (which I applaud) and saying it can be done. Sadly for him, his aim is way off. The Lakers are getting Dwight or nothing, that's the target. They are not getting rid of Pau Gasol unless it's to us, they aren't amnestying anyone who comes off the books next year, and they are not getting anyone in a S&T for Dwight Howard. They do not want ANY salary for 2014 unless it's Dwight. Nash is still on the books, so taking ANYONE will severely hinder their goal of LBJ (laughing at that). You drew ur guns and blew ur load, still didn't come close to the target, but I applaud u sticking to them. Get them resighted after this conclusion.
Yah I am not saying all of it...just saying they wouldnt necessarily be taking all that extra salary and paying million for lin and asik. They can still lower that full number by the trade dead line with other cost cutting moves.
