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NBA Fans PISSED a Mexican-American Boy sings "their" National Anthem

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SwoLy-D, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. BamBam

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    Yo sí se mañana.....
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  2. DaDakota

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    Well - that just proves that ignorance is everywhere.

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  3. YaosDirtyStache

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    Frankly that kid is annoying and I really hate seeing kids pretend to be 30. It comes off as forced and disingenuous.

    Who cares if people said racist stuff about this kid, if he wants to be in the spot light then he obviously should be able to be made fun of. Part of the gig of being a semilebrity is that you will have haters, ask Amy Bouzaglo about that.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I think it's fine to make fun of the kid. It isn't fine to make racist comments about him. It's racist. Being racist isn't really an okay thing.
     
  5. YaosDirtyStache

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    Racism will always be around. Always. I dont say that like we should accept it, but I say it in the manner that we shouldnt be shocked by it.

    This country was built by immigrants...immigrants that saw fit to harass each other due their race. Italians vs Irish, African v Latino, Brit v Native. Racism is just part of our world...not just here in the USA.

    Mexicans seem to have taken the AfAm stance from the 60s and are trying to paint that the USA as a whole is against them or something, when the reality of it is...it isnt.

    So, this kid is called an illegal...ok? If the Mexican community didnt want people to generalize all Mexicans are Illegal then they shouldnt have crossed our border to such a degree that it has become THE running joke on their race. (All races have running jokes on them, blacks and chicken, italians and talking hands, white people and small peckers, asians cant drive etc etc etc)

    This is a non topic to me...racism to me is only real when legitimate violence (physical or emotional) has been done. If it hasnt crossed a certain line then it isnt racism, its ignorance.
     
  6. khanhdum

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    racist remarks towards a little kid is okay? especially for just singing and representing his culture and nothing else? anyways props to the Spurs organization and the mayor to let him sing again and props to him on another good rendition of the national anthem.
     
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    I'm Mexican and I did not like his attire. Was he going to sing the National anthem mariachi style? Total Fail by whoever decided to dress him like that. They should have dressed him in cowboy clothes, since after all, you're in San Antonio, Texas.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Oh I agree it shouldn't be a surprise, especially on the internet.

    But the comment about Mexicans shouldn't have crossed the border to the degree they have is a silly one.

    People of Mexican heritage who live here have no say about what anyone else does pertaining to crossing the border.

    As far as it's only racism when there's violence, it would be nice if it were that simple. I used to be closer to that line of thinking until I had the opportunity to talk with a survivor of a holocaust concentration camp. He said that as much as he blamed Hitler he blamed everyone else who fed the stereotypes of Jews and told jokes about Jews because it ostracized and dehumanized them to such an extent that it made the holocaust possible. People weren't going to believe it was going on, or didn't want to help Jews who were fleeing from it. Those types of jokes and stereotypes made the holocaust possible according to this man. They allowed people to not care about it, or accept it. Ever since then, I've had a different attitude towards that kind of racism.
     
  9. amaru

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    Lets get the story straight.......there was ONE black person identified in the original post.

    He speaks for himself, not the 1 billion other Africans on the planet.

    Nobody elected him as our voice.
     
  10. amaru

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    You just now realized that that portion of Dr. Kings message ( don't get it twisted he was more than a civil rights activist) hasn't come to pass yet? That should have been made painfully obvious when the FBI agents tracking him did nothing to prevent his murder.
     
  11. amaru

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    This country was built on the genocide of first nation people and the backs of African people who can hardly be described as "immigrants"
     
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    I think every major country has been built through extreme violence if you want to really break it down. FWIW the genocide wasn't on purpose in the beginning, but it certainly was in the end. If disease hadn't destroyed the population of the first settlers of the Americas then our society would be very different.

    A bit of an aside, but just imagine if it was the original "Americans" who gave the Europeans smallpox, flu, plague, cholera, measles, mumps, malaria, etc. instead of the other way around.
     
  13. bingsha10

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    TBH, it didn't take long before the english settlers started massacring any indians they could find. Bacon's rebellion and all that was pretty early on in American history.

    They also treated indentured servants much worse than slaves for a very long time.
     
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    Not to interfere in this train wreck of a thread but...say what? ^^^That's a decidedly unsupportable statement.
     
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    He is referring to the unintentional spread of small pox by Europeans in North America. Initially it was the main factor in the dwindling population of Native Americans.
     
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    That's a short walk from "I don't mean to be racist but..." and "I don't mind people that arent't heterosexual WASPs as long as they act and dress like hetereosexual WASPs."

    Calling it out isn't "being shocked by it." To be offended by a mariachi singer who performs...dressed as a mariachi is to be the one not actually dealing with the world as it is.

    It's absurd and every reasonable person has a moral imperative to take a stand and say that it isn't acceptable.

    Why do you feel a need to be an apologist for bigotry? It's a weak ass argument. What you are saying is that we should accept bigotry as normal, simply because people do it.

    The fact that it does happen everywhere is precisely the reason it shouldn't be ignored.


    Yes, because when people who are marginalized complain about being marginalized, they are just a bunch of sissies that should be put in their place.

    So your logic is, if Mexican people didn't want to be made fun of by you, then they shouldn't be different.

    Racism IS by definition, ignorance.

    Bigotry comes in many forms, and it usually isn't wearing a sheet over it's head or a swastika on it's arm. It's usually just as banal as your posts.

    Racism exists less because of the overt bigots and more because of apologists like you with false arguments of "that's just the way it is." It will always be so as long as people with low self-esteem feel the need to make themselves feel better at someone else's expense.

    What's lost in all this is that a 10 year old kid totally rocked the National Anthem. Usually these things are done for the cute factor, but the kid sing his freaking lungs out in front of a hometown audience. Rather than being able to enjoy it, it has to be ruined by people who somehow take offense that San Antonio is full of Mexican people.
     
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    Columbus and his cronies enslaved virtually the entire population of Hispaniola, forcing them to work in mines under the most horrendous conditions imaginable (encomiendo). By 1514 only 22,000 remained per a Spanish census. The first pandemic on the island occurred in 1519. The "tribute" system put in place in La Navidad alone accounted for ~10,000 deaths, where anyone over age 14 who could not meet the daily demands had his/her hand cut off and was left to bleed to death. I could go on, but what's the point - you are wrong.

    EDIT: Sorry for the derail.
     
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    What exactly did I twist? The speech had double meaning, a religious
    overtone and a civil rights message. I am referring to the civil rights
    message since we are discussing racism. His desire to see a man judged
    not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character is still
    only a dream. In many sections of society racism is alive and well, the
    only difference is that it's not as out in the open as it once was, after all
    it wouldn't be politically correct......:eek:
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  19. amaru

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    Of course every country has its dark history.....not sure why you mentioning it. Just because somebody else committed murder doesn't give me the right to do it.

    I would argue that subjugation was the goal from the outset with genocide being the end result. The Trans-Atlantic slave trade actually started when first nation Caribbean people were taken to Spain as slaves.
     
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    I'm referring to the fact that, like many americans, you seem to see MLK as only a civil rights activist. MLK was far more than that.....he was a human rights activist concerned with injustices that occurred outside the US borders as well as those within.

    He wasn't the nice, fluffy, unassuming guy that our current school system likes to portray him as.
     

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