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Steve Kyler: Howard also considering Brooklyn and San Antonio

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. DM'sVP

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    Brook Lopez could be enticing to the fakers but if they were going to do a S&T why wouldnt they want Lin and Asik? Lin in a lakers uniform would make huge money. in order for SA to sign Howard they would have to say good bye to manu, i dont see them doing that. H town is the place D12 will call home next season and the rockets will go to the western conference finals. then next off season Lebron will see the light and come play with JHard and D12 to win all those titles he wants. lol
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    It's going to be really hard for the Nets to work the cap math. It is hard enough for a team to dump even a minor bad contract nowadays, let along $16M of it. Remember how much the Knicks paid just to dump Jared Jeffries and his $6M to create cap room?
     
  3. pwnyxpress

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    Right, but to send out $16M before the trade, they'd have to be able to get rid of either Wallace or Humphries plus essentially their whole non-starter team (Teletovic, Marshon and Reggie Evans)...and get NOTHING back. Very rarely do you send out so many players worth so little and can actually take nothing back.

    Or get rid of Joe Johnson's contract for free. VERY few teams can take JJ's contract FOR nothing, nor would anyone want to. His contract was one of the worst when it was made...and after his crappy yr, it has only gotten worse (and is on the books till 2016!).

    Then they'd have to SnT Lopez out w/ the random $788k salaries of 3 players to LAL, assuming LAL is willing to take Lopez.

    I don't even know if the above can work out because I didn't do the math for the min. $490k roster capholds. It might not even be possible w/ the way their salaries are structured unless they send BOTH Wallace and Humphries out for nothing in the first transaction, etc. or just Johnson.

    This all assumes Deron must stay in BKN, or else why would Dwight even want to go there if no one even left, except maybe Joe Johnson lmfao. If ORL couldn't have gotten it done when Nets were in a more flexible position, I doubt they can do it now. We might as well be planning for a way to somehow get LBJ to our team in some complex SnT :p
     
  4. pwnyxpress

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    I'm more worried about the Spurs. They don't seem like a team that would WANT to take Dwight Howard, and Howard would probably HATE playing for Pop and the Spurs' system...but I will be damned if they don't have the space and talent to be pretty awesome next yr. Manu has declined a lot, so if they let him go and sign Dwight instead...easy peasy. If TD plays anywhere near like how he is playing this yr for just 2 more seasons, SAS might just win a couple more rings (they're on track to win one THIS yr).
     
  5. J.R.

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    I'm surprised Houston is even in the mix. A fractured front office, a fake coach in Kevin McHale, Rockets are meanies to free agents, how is Houston even in the mix Steve Kyler?
     
  6. xiki

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    Best deal? Howard will get maxed period. Perhaps other Fegan client(s) will be advantaged and/or FOD*.

    *Friends of Dwight
     
  7. aelliott

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    A couple of problems:

    NJ can't do that deal because they'd still be over the Luxury Tax Apron after the trade and therefore are not allowed to receive a sign and traded player.

    Even if they LA was allowed to trade Howard for the package that you suggest, they'd still be over the cap even after amnestying Gasol (as you suggest) so I'm not sure how you intend to acquire Milsap.
     
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    I'm tired of this crap already. Do not want because of his drama antics. Next.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    I know, they'd have to trade some terrible contracts but the worst part is it's still possible although very unlikely.

    The thing I don't like about it is if they somehow get it done Dwight will go running there simply because it's Brooklyn...despite all the terrible moves they have made to put them in the position they are now.
     
  11. pwnyxpress

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    Sure, but it is so unlikely that it is as good as impossible, or else virtually any team in the nba could 'possibly' make enough room to get any other player, though the attraction of a neat market does not hold for like 25/30 teams lol.
     
  12. rocketjunkie

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    This is pretty much what I was thinking and said in another thread. Humphries is an expiring contract at $12m. If they dump him by adding in various picks us $3m cash, they can clear $12m immediately. They they just have to clear another $3-4m by throwing in mars on brooks, teletovic and remaining picks etc to another under the cap team. Then if LA prefers Lopez over nothing (since Dwight leaving for nothing is not good), then the sign and trade Dwight to nj for Lopez plus a minimum contract. Rockets used as leverage again. Dwight loves NY - that's the one established fact in all this drama. He would probably accept slightly less to go there so Brooklyn would have to move less money.
     
  13. MrButtocks

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    The Lakers have more avenues to get CP3 than Brooklyn does to get Dwight. Is there a team with a higher payroll than them at this point?
     
  14. pwnyxpress

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    Actually, I laid out how that would work out in the other thread. You're forgetting minimum roster charges for all these players they are sending out for free. They'd need to send even more out, to the point where they'd either have to have ONLY Deron, JJohnson, Wallace and Dwight on contract for $74M!! or they have to move Wallace's contract w/ Humphries.

    As aelliott mentioned in the other thread, EVERY team in the nba CAN technically do trades to get x player on their team, but these have to be realistic scenarios. The aforementioned are VERY hard to pull off. Dumping contracts worth just a few million under the new cba is though enough, much less over $16M worth in bad player contracts made up of like 6 players or two players, one of which is severely overpaid for many yrs. It just doesn't make any real practical sense.
     
  15. thekad

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    Yeah, Dwight is going to go play with a 37 year old Duncan and 31 year old Parker. You'd have to be unbelievably dense and dull in the head to believe that, let alone regard it as news.
     
  16. pnr

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    Spurs system will make that team relevant for years to come, especially if Pop is still coaching. Dwight wants to win now and the Spurs offer the best chance of that next year. Plus the Spurs have budding young stars in Kawhi and Green.
     
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    i dont see anyone helping the nets by taking JJ who showed poorly in the playoffs and at that price, nor is anyone going to want gerald wallace. Someone could take brook lopez but why would the lakers want the nets trash of JJ or gW? Spurs, have cap room but I dont see them using all their cap on dwight, ginobli hasnt been ginobli and hes expiring so i expect to see them get a scoring wing and re up splitter or go for a cheaper option like al jefferson or millsap to play along with duncan and lessen his minutes.
     
  18. Rox>Mavs

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    You have to think though....that might have something also to do with every other post from you being about bashing trob or the trade and your love for ppat. People on here might just start thinking you're not really objective or have some sort of agenda. Just postulating....
     
  19. Corrosion

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    Robin Lopez + ??? in exchange for DH12 ? Lopez has a better offensive game than Howard. Both have history of injury .... Depending upon what they Nets added , the Lakers might come out with the better end of the deal.
     
  20. Corrosion

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    Errrr .... Brook Lopez.
     

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