1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

LeBron- overrated defender?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ferrari77, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. DreamRoxCoogFan

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,661
    Likes Received:
    175
    Best way to describe him is a cherry-picking defender. He played his success for weakside blocks into the NBA all defense team, which is absurd. He's an average defender, but for a superstar player, that's pretty good.
     
  2. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,455
    Likes Received:
    65,178
    Remember that Paul George dunk on Birdman? That happened because George blew by Lebron on that play.
     
  3. jbasket

    jbasket Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2012
    Messages:
    4,361
    Likes Received:
    1,187
    If we are really being nickpicky, KD blew right past George on that dunk on Hibbert, and George is considered a great two-way player. It happens.
     
  4. Dave_78

    Dave_78 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    373
    He is consistently good and sometimes great defensively. His post defense is overrated and for all the hype about his ability to guard all five positions, he cannot handle true PFs down low. David West threw him around (without Lebron helping by flopping) like has Kevin Martin.
     
  5. da_juice

    da_juice Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    1,070
    In today's NBA there are few skilled, traditional PFs like West. So Lebron can handle himself against most modern "power" forwards.
     
  6. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,082
    Likes Received:
    29,505
    There is no way you can defend a good NBA perimeter player one on one on every possession. Saying that LeBron gets blown by does not mean he is not a good defender. Every defender gets blown by some of the times.
     
  7. Mr Chuck Norris

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,745
    McGrady beat him off the dribble last night
     
  8. YoungGods

    YoungGods Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    2,504
    Likes Received:
    22
    Lebron will be on fire tonight. it's a must win for the heat. going to be an exciting game
     
  9. FoOLiSh_AzN

    FoOLiSh_AzN Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    57
    lebron is not an overrated defender...he really is good on defense

    if anything overrated about lebron, its his offensive game...he is just not a pure scorer
     
  10. Yung-T

    Yung-T Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    24,403
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    LeBron would be the worst defender in Euro League, Spanoulis would drop 50 on him.

    OHMSS
     
    1 person likes this.
  11. cjtaylorpt

    cjtaylorpt Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,744
    Likes Received:
    210
    What an ignorant thing to say.

    Remember that shot that Jordan missed that could've won the game? He just isn't built to win games.

    Remember the time Hakeem got dunked on by STARKS? He is not that great of a shot blocker/rim protector.
     
  12. cjtaylorpt

    cjtaylorpt Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,744
    Likes Received:
    210
    Please re-post all of those who say Lebron is a pure scorer. LOL!
     
  13. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,708
    Likes Received:
    132,014
    LBJ is the best wing defender in the NBA. No, he isn't over rated as a defender.
     
  14. CDrex

    CDrex Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    1,498
    Depends on what the base 'rating' which we're judging is. I really don't have a firm grasp on what people really think about him.

    Is it appropriate for him to be first team all-defense? I think so. He's so huge and mobile that the entire offense bends over backwards trying to keep him from being able to play help defense.

    Is he some Russell-like deity that absolutely defines excellence on that end? God no. He rarely makes gritty defensive stops because he's so intent on avoiding fouls. He gets beat on backdoor plays and gives up easy rebounds to guys like Leonard, same as most guys would.

    He's the current best defender in the world at his peak but he doesn't play up to his peak too often, which is fine for an offensive superstar.

    So if the rating is "really, really good" I think he's properly rated. If it's "the best", I'd say that's hyperbole.
     
  15. mortiki85

    mortiki85 Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    179
    Likes Received:
    3
    lebron is a good defender, but is very overrated, there's a reason Wade guards the best offensive player, when they get switched lebron can hold his own sometimes, but the bad outweighs good on that, when he gets really committed to defense in 1 game, he does fairly well, people mistaking weak side blocks and jumping the passing lanes for a steal because someone on the ball played good defense and playing good one on one defense. everyone gets caught up in 1 game defensive performances for lebron too, 1 game he played really good defense on derrick rose, 1 game he played really good defense on rondo, who isn't that good of an offensive player anyways, if you play 1 or 2 games well defensively out of a 6 or 7 games series, then you're not that good of a defender...but i will go with my beginning statement, and i'm a lebron hater, he is a good defender.
     
  16. jgreen91

    jgreen91 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2002
    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    46
    Remember when Hakeem got posterized by Kevin Johnson, yeah because of that Hakeem is an overrated shot blocker.
     
  17. jgreen91

    jgreen91 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2002
    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    46
    Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Internet and I've been on the Internet a very long time. Wade guards the best offensive player REALLY???? Wade is a huge liability on defense and never guards the other teams best player. Geez
     
  18. haoafu

    haoafu Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    56
    He's a strong 3 or quick 4, but he's having trouble to guard quick 3's or strong/tall 4's. Overall quite good and versatile, but not great which is fine given his offensive load.
     
  19. albuster

    albuster Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,094
    Likes Received:
    808
    This. He is not over rated though, he is good enough. What he is often over rated about is that he is talked about as a GOAT. The greatest NBA players often save their best for the finals not during the regular season. 'Nuf said.
     
  20. mortiki85

    mortiki85 Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    179
    Likes Received:
    3
    have you ever watched a heat game, especially in the playoffs, wade starts off and for most of the game stays on the best offensive player, other than parker, wade spends the most time on most of the other teams best player
     

Share This Page