If Lin can play with full confidence he'll be much better. I think he'll learn his lessons after this tough first season as a rocket
OK. I see your original post says you really believe Lin has potential. OK. I think he will improve too, and I sincerely hope he will become the best PG in history while he is on the Rockets. I don't really get your point. You think he's really good. OK. No. If "LOH" means "Lin Only Hater," then that means someone who is here only to hate on Lin, according to my understanding. If someone was here before Lin, I don't see how he can be accused of being here only to hate on Lin. I guess you think "LOH" means "hater of Lin only." I suppose you do not remember the existence of YOF's and TOF's, so we probably do have different understandings. Anyway, it's the "fans" who are here only because of Jeremy Lin--both LOF's and LOH's--who have no respect for the board and make it worse than it used to be.
First, people can actually change over time. A person that is on this board for x reason can actually become a LOH over time. I don't think that is somehow impossible. Second, let us be honest here -- no one uses that term in the GARM THAT technically, as if a LOF does not care about the Rockets AT ALL outside of Lin or a LOH does not care about the Rockets AT ALL outside of Lin. It is used as a pejorative term for people who tend to over-emphasize one thing over the other, usually to an unreasonable degree. True 'technical' LOFs/LOHs might exist, but they are probably extremely rare. Most are just those that over focus or over prioritize on the task of loving or hating Lin. I can believe that the original meaning is the one you laid out, but I imagine 90% of the GARM is NOT using that term (as loosely as it is now applied) in that fashion anymore. Shoot, anyone who says one positive word about Lin or one negative word about Harden is auto LOF lol. Come now...
Can someone change the thread title? Each time I glance over the page, I think the thread is titled, "Serious injury to Jeremy Lin"
Time for you to make another disguised-title thread to bash Lin. It's all you do anyway ... so much for the pretend-moniker of Roxlove
Hmm ... just read to page 5 ... where you get toilet-paper-tough and garbage comparisons ... just for starters. Or that because he takes 2 weeks in Asia he obviously didn't practice his shooting or ball-handling enough.
I think the rest of the league kinda already knew that. That's why only the Rockets offered him a contract while the rest of the league didn't even contact him. Not even the Knicks wanted him back. The Linsanity was over before the All star break when he faced the Heat and they didn't let him score more than 10 points. With that said, I think Lin will eventually make a great bench player. Coming off the bench to score 8 PPG 3.5 APG in about 19 MPG.
I like when posters resort to using personal attacks in their replies instead of actually debating the facts that are on the table. It helps me to differentiate here between the grownups, and those who are still stuck firmly in the pupae phase.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7538 http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2007/11/12/assist-rates/ There are plenty more intelligent discussions about why assist-to-turnover is a flawed statistic, but I'm not going to waste the effort. I posted the links for the benefit of the people who may actually believe that there is some merit to the argument that assist-to-turnover ratio actually tells you anything meaningful about a player's production. Even a basic reflection on what constitutes an assist and what constitutes a turnover, and why that needs to be expressed as a ratio, should make anyone give pause in using it to support a real basketball argument.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...n/point-guards The haters Roxlove and Tycoonchip etc should also admit from the link, Lin is better than Kyrie Irving and Eric Bledsoe. HA
I don't want to fight. But actually, there really are people on this board who say "Jeremy is so good that he needs to get traded to a different team, to get his minutes and his due." They are fans of Lin only, not the Rockets, i.e. LOF's. On the other hand, I haven't noticed anyone saying "I only want Lin to fail, so I hope he misses the game-winning shot for the Rockets." That would be a LOH. At any rate, both of these types of posters suck and they are not Rockets fans.
Are we...fighting? lol Like I said in my earlier post, I am not denying the existence of either type...just saying those types to THAT technical of a degree are so rare that they constitute a very small percentage of LOFs or LOHs as used in the GARM on a regular basis. And while the former scenario you laid out "Jeremy so good he should get traded, etc." is seen a lot more than the latter "Lin fail even if Rockets fail"...that's a really arbitrary comparison. How are those equivalent statements on polar ends of the spectrum? To be comparable, you'd need the first statement to be something like "I hope every single player on the Rockets has non-stop horrible nights but Lin does fantastically every night, regardless of whether Rockets win or lose." I don't really see those comments much either...
Exactly. A bit disingenuous to use a metric that is so obviously flawed that so many obvious exceptions exist. Monta Ellis, Kyrie Irving, Eric Bledsoe are all below Lin, and Jrue Holiday is just one spot ahead of him. Westbrook and Lillard are only a handful of spots ahead too. Wow, Lin's in pretty good company. And obviously a top 5 that has players like AJ Price and a top 10 w/ Shaun Livingston, whom we cut, is golden
LOFs have been proclaiming him better then Irving (it's actually in a posters sig) and Bledsoe (multiple threads) all year. Idiots. Plain and simple
Yeah, that's silly. Lin over Bledsoe is already shaky, though their styles are different enough where I can see them, atm, making that argument, esp. since Bledsoe has never taken a starting role on a team yet. But Irving? omg I would trade 3 Lins for 1 Irving
