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Church: Obama, NSA, Verizon

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. bigtexxx

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    bro can I recommend an English class?
     
  2. basso

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    all this "security" and they still missed the tsarnaevs.
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    Sure...as soon as you admit you are bigot.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    I'm certainly not a bigot.

    Every single post from you has an English issue. Is English your second language? If so I'll lay off, but if not, please seek help -- it will limit you in life if you cannot speak and write proper English. Just trying to help.
     
  5. Mr.Scarface

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    I'm glad you are paying attention to my grammar. Here is something for you to ponder: Kiss my ass...... How's that? Broken English? Bigot.
     
  6. bobmarley

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    Even More Lawmakers Say Obama Never Told Them About NSA Program, Despite Obama’s Claim “Every Member” Of Congress Knew And Signed Off On It



    So if he makes up straw men about “not listening in on our phone calls”, then lies straight to our faces, claiming we should trust the process because our representatives all signed off on it, where does that leave us, when it is shown to be a lie? Back to the drawing board, Dear Leader, it’s not working well for you…

    Via Politico:

    President Barack Obama’s chief defense of his administration’s wide-ranging data-gathering programs Friday: Congress authorized them, with “every member” well aware of the details.

    Not so, say many members of Congress — Democrats and Republicans alike.

    Typically, members of Congress “don’t receive this kind of briefing,” Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told POLITICO Friday. They wouldn’t have known about the programs unless they were on an intelligence committee, attended special sessions last held in 2011 or specifically asked to be briefed – something they would only know to do if they were clued in by an colleague who was already aware.

    Durbin said he learned about the two programs himself only after requesting a briefing under “classified circumstances” after being urged to do so by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

    Congressional leadership and intelligence committees had access to information about the programs, he said — but the “average member” of Congress likely wouldn’t have been aware of the breadth of the telephone and Internet surveillance.

    There’s no public record of who has attended any of these sessions — and even the Obama administration couldn’t confirm the president’s claim that “every member of Congress” had been briefed.

    The White House declined to comment for this story.

    And Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.) told POLITICO that the classified intelligence briefing sessions he’s attended haven’t disclosed details on the two data-gathering programs as were unveiled this week.

    Schock, in Congress since 2009, said he had “no idea” about the phone data gathering, or any briefings for House members to discuss it, until news reports this week.

    Like other members who said they learned of the data-gathering efforts when they were revealed in the Guardian and the Washington Post, Schock said the administration classified briefings he’s attended have revealed very little information.

    “I can assure you the phone number tracking of non-criminal, non-terrorist suspects was not discussed,” he said. “Most members have stopped going to their classified briefings because they rarely tell us anything we don’t already know in the news. It really has become a charade.”

    Keep reading…
    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/congress-nsa-prism-intelligence-briefing-92438.html?hp=f2
     
  7. giddyup

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    You forgot to say "please..."
     
  8. Space Ghost

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    did they? Sometimes you need a good scare to keep your program going.
     
  9. bobmarley

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    Huh? Mind blown.
     
  10. Realjad

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    they care about what your wearing bro
     
  11. BEAT LA

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    Before you get audited the IRS will know everything about you and determine if you are worth it.

    Thank you pot smoking terrorists. Wherever the hell you came from.
     
  12. Rockets R' Us

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    IRS knows because the companies that pay you report what they pay you. Think about every form you're issued, a copy of that goes to the IRS. It's why you only include documents that show withholding when submitting your 1040. They know how much you made, they just don't know what deductions you're eligible for.
     
  14. BEAT LA

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    The gov already has employees on lock with the current system. I am talking about business owners.
     
  15. Commodore

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    Rand Paul 2016

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    A high school dropout is given top secret documents. I think the NSA is probably not filed with the smartest people.
     
  17. Mathloom

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    If the right and left wing can't come together on this issue, then the future of your country is very very dark.

    I understand that there are some people who are willing give up their privacy for half a bag of peanuts. Those are the minority. Most people (As long as they know the details) care about the idea that there is not a remotely appropriate approval process for each time that the government feels it needs to invade the privacy of citizens.

    For non-citizens, this should be even more infuriating. If Americans want to keep voting for the two parties that systematically attack Americans' rights, it is a problem for Americans. I think it's horrible and it's stupid to ignore, but they knew what type of people they were picking when they participated in the red/blue election bonanza. But the fact that this practice is applied outside the borders means one of two things: (1) the foreign government is not complicit, therefore it is an act of war on the country as a whole, or (2) the foreign government is complicit, and therefore this is an act of war on the citizens of a country, and the government is engaging in modern treason.

    At this point, every enemy to the national security of the United States have the same strategy: maximize fear = maximize power for authorities = eventually, broke citizens and reduction in self-determination. In the last 40 or so years, the two parties have also resorted to these tactics. If you think that people in power are interested in increasing/maintaining your rights and freedoms, then you have fallen into a trap that the founders of your nation predicted a long time ago. That doesn't mean they saw the future. That just means that, if you are falling for it, then you have fallen for something so predictable it was pointed out long before you were born.

    In Turkey they decided to challenge their authority figures for a park. Just a park. It's only the response to that minor protest that alerted the citizens of the inappropriate boundaries of their government. Americans seem to be in a deep sleep, and it is scary to think it will require something significantly larger than this issue to mobilize Americans towards one goal.

    Today, you should be wondering if Americans can get what they want even when most of the citizens are in agreement. Up until a few weeks ago, you would have been called a conspiracy theorist if you said the government monitors phonecalls without going through an approval process which you consider appropriate. This should be more than enough to come to a temporary truce, and if you are more interested in dealing a blow to supporters of the opposition party than you are in resolving this mess, then congratulations, you are the problem.
     
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  18. Mr.Scarface

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...-whistleblower-nsa-revelations_n_3412245.html

    This coward is hiding out in Hong Kong, seeking asylum from China. Add Traitor to his resume'. If he was such a Patriot, come home and face the music :).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why
     
  19. glynch

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    "coward" tell me you are being sarcastic.


    This guy is incredibly courageous.
     
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