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The IRS Targets Conservatives

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  1. mc mark

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    Release ALL of the IRS transcripts Issa.

    IRS Staff Undermine GOP Claims That White House Directed Targeting Of Conservative Groups, Top Democrat Says

    Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) — the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee — pledged to release transcripts of interviews with Internal Revenue Service (IRS) officials that Republicans insist demonstrate that the agency’s targeting of conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) status was directed by the Obama administration.

    “I wrote Chairman Issa on Thursday and I wrote to him this morning. I want those transcripts to be released,” Cummings said. “I’m willing to come on your show next week with the chairman with the transcripts if he agrees to do that. If he doesn’t, I’ll release them by the end of the week.”

    Cummings insisted that the interviews will prove that “the White House was not involved in this,” pointing out that the Cincinnati IRS manager of the screening group, a career veteran at the agency who identified himself as Republican, told investigators that Washington did not direct the targeting. “I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development,” the individual told investigators according to portion of the transcripts released by the Democratic staff on the House Oversight Committee.
     
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    According to the IRS employees in Cincinnati, they said their marching orders came directly from Washington and that they felt they "were being thrown under the bus" by Lerner et al. I'm anxious to read or hear their testimony. Of course, the "Republican" to whom you allude is probably terrified (career-wise) of the retribution from on high if he doesn't toe the official line.
     
  3. mc mark

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    thumbs please refrain from posting here in D&D. I'm sure you are on some list somewhere (deservedly so) and we don't want the feds snooping around in here.
     
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    You may well be correct in your view. However, you personally are safe considering you follow the party line absolutely, and curbing opposing views certainly falls within the parameters of the Obama administration party line.
     
  5. mc mark

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    So you're saying your teabagger group apposed the views of the administration and willfully campaigned against them and supported candidates that apposed the administration?

    I'm shocked, is that allowed under tax exempt status?
     
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    Game set and match. Let's put this one to bed.
     
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    You guys wish. Congressional investigations into one or more of the Obama scandals -- IRS Part I and II, AP, Rosen, Benghazi, NSA, Solyndra, Fast & Furious et al -- will IMO lead to the impeachment of Obama, probably in the next Congressional term. I can only hope.
     
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    You can be electrified for all I care. There is growing alarm how Obama misused the IRS and there is an increasing trail of criminal activity leading directly to him.

    I'm sure you think it was fair to target conservative groups and individuals while expediting the tax status of liberal groups, some in as little as 30 days while conservative groups waited more than three years.

    But then your posts have always demonstrated you have little regard for freedom, whether of speech or any other liberty, and less regard for the constitutional rights of Americans who do not share your views.
     
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    The bolded part is correct. You can only hope, because most of it turns out to not really be scandals at all. It's mostly just a bunch of twisting and turning pretend scandals instead of anything actually important.

    There are actual scandals that Obama should be facing the public and scrutiny for, but congress doesn't go after those because those would implicate both parties.
     
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    Your Franchiseblade has been seriously dulled.
     
  11. mc mark

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    You didn't answer the question
     
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    The impeachment of a sitting President is deleterious to the country. It splinters the country and creates a large degree of uncertainty. I did not vote for Obama in either election. I disagree with him on many things. But that you hope for the deleterious process of impeachment because you disagree with him politically is repugnant.
     
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    I can tell you that what people say in interviews, etc is often VERY different from what they will testify to once put under oath.
     
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    The answer is so obvious I thought your question was rhetorical.

    Of course, both liberal and conservative 501c3 groups are tax sheltered. That's the law of the land. However, both should receive equal scrutiny in equal time frames to see if they fit the requirements. However, the IRS admitted they targeted conservative groups that contained words like "patriots" but not liberal words like "progressive." Also, they turned over donor lists from conservative causes to groups with liberal causes -- which is a criminal act. Had they provided the donor lists of liberal groups to conservative groups, it would have just as illegal.

    Every IRS agent who committed such a criminal act needs to go to federal prison with complete revocation of their pension rights. If Congress threatens to do just that, there will be a cacophony created by whistleblowers.
     
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    You still didn't answer the question, so I'll ask it as simply as I can.

    Do you think your tea party group truthfully qualified as a tax exempt group knowing the political activism you were involved with?
     
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    Absolutely. Our primary goal was to promote programs that would help the American people as a whole. I would delve into that further but even this answer will make certain attorneys nervous and edgy.
     
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    I can't imagine why

    BTW

    That sure sounds like lawyer speak, was this a talking point they gave you?
     
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    I have never agreed with your politics, but I do not believe you suffer from a lack of intellect. I leave you to make your own deductions.
     
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    You do realize you have just confirmed the IRS's suspicions yes?
     
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    Suspicions of what? I have never committed an illegal act nor abetted one. Can Obama and his administrators say the same?
     

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