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Marc Spears from Yahoo Sports: "Nobody" is interested in trading for Thomas Robinson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. sammy

    sammy Member

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    And it'll be a 4 year deal no matter what. The fourth being a player option.
     
  2. ROXTXIA

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    Which is funny, because Morey has always had an aversion to the player option. Takes away his power to trade a player.

    "As a rule, the Rockets organization does not give player options ....... exCEEEEEEEEEEEEpt when that player is Dwight Howard."
     
  3. Fullcourt

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    It's always been that way with max players. This went without saying when Morey explained his player option policy.
     
  4. BEAT LA

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    Everyone realize this. Patterson must be re-signed after next seoson. He will most likely work hard during the off-season/regular season and get paid something he does not deserve.

    Robinson has 4 yrs left on his deal which includes a team option on every one. Do not say Robinson is not worth his contract, because of where he was picked. If that is the case then his team option wont be picked up. Patterson, however, has no contract. Teams would rather wait until free agency to sign a player like him. Trading for a player like Patterson and giving up assets will not improve your team. Just look at the Kings.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Robinson is making money that he doesn't deserve right now and will likely be doing so until his contract is terminated one way or another.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    Thanks for the correction. Thats a very interesting twist that could be exploited in a certain situation.

    Regardless, its probably a moot point given that two first round picks in this years draft is probably asking a bit much unless there is a bidding war we dont know about for Robinson.

    Another thing not working in Houston's favor is that he's likely going to have his option declined in October by most teams and certainly would have his option declined by Cleveland since they are a team that has been open about adding an all-star post player to their young core like a LMA, or Kevin Love. They are a team that isn't going to pick up his option and risk their flexibility to bring in another impact player via trade or free agency.

    So if Im a team that's going to decline his option, its tough to really offer much more than a 2nd round pick or one late first if he ends up having a breakout 2nd season and they lose him in free agency. If he doesn't and he's still a project they might just as well let him walk anyways.

    I just dont see his value being that high mostly due to finances and circumstance that have nothing to do with Thomas Robinson the player. Had he been the 10th pick in the draft instead of 5th, he'd still be on the Sacramento Kings, and the Rockets would be trying to trade Patrick Patterson instead making just slightly less at 3.1 million.
     
  7. basketballholic

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    Miles and Quinn can be waived at any time. They have no guarantee date. So you keep them on the roster until its time to sign Dwight just in case there is a sign and trade scenario that presents itself after Dwight commits to Houston.
     
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    If Cleveland isn't going to pick up Robinson's for cap reasons, pray tell what are they going to do with the guaranteed salary of the two dudes they draft with 19 and 30?
     
  9. gmoney411

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    Why doesn't he deserve that money? He earned a higher scale rookie contract by performing in college.
     
  10. pwnyxpress

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    Cool, but I don't think we'd even have enough money to sign both first round picks after all this work.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    Because Carl hates him:rolleyes:.
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    My mistake earlier. I meant Cleveland's #19 and #31 picks. That way we would have #19,#31 and #34. In other words Ricky Ledo, Mike Muscala and Archie Goodwin for T. Rob.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    It would be for the same reason Houston is trying to trade Thomas Robinson instead of Donatas Motiejunas and Terrence Jones. Its probably easier to move two guys in separate deals making a true rookie salary than it is 1 player that is under-performing his top five rookie salary.

    Plus there is the "drive the car off the lot" notion where a prospects value declines in the first year. Even New Orleans probably could have traded Austin Rivers easily around the trade deadline, but the longer he's in the league, the lower his value gets. With two new rookie draft picks, you reset the time clock on their value decline.

    With Cleveland and those two picks, your probably getting guys who could be moved easily between the trade deadline and next Summer if they needed the cap space. Robinson would limit the amount of suitors given the cap space needed, is a risk if he doesn't improve and you do extend him, and is a risk if he does improve/you don't extend him, and he leaves in free agency after next year.
     
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  14. YaoMing#1

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    Im pretty sure if Trob was making the same as tjone and dmo he would be the player not getting traded. His potential is very high and his game would wrk very well with a player like dwight Howard assuming he improved his 15-18 foot jumper. We would control the boards and have a super athletic defensive front court with both players not being liabities on switches.

    I know Trob gets flack because he was the 5th pick and got traded for basically both our pfs and didn't come in and grab the starting role. Yet it was unrealistic to expect much more than what he did with barley a quarter of the season left on a new team fighting for the playoffs. Dmo was giving that starting nod and he lost all his minutes too, yet I don't see as much dmo sucks and is worthless as I do with Trob.

    At the end of the day wether it's with us or another team Trob will be given a big time chance to prove himself and learn the NBA game while polishing his skills. There's no doubt in my mind that Trob will be a fine NBA player and a guy who gets atleast 25 minutes a night for a very long time.
     
  15. Artie_Fufkin

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    I agree 100%; we need to step up our D-Mo sucks game, guys!
     
  16. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Who cares about TRob when D-Mo sucks.
     
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    The thing that intrigued me the most about D-Mo was his ability to shoot from outside. When he was not able to do that during the season he became a liability. So then he is just in the way.
     
  18. Artie_Fufkin

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    Step it up!
     
  19. cbk41

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    He inability to hit the outside shot did make his role to play in the offense increasingly difficult down the stretch. However he was damn good when he got post touches, and his ability to beat his man off the dribble was uncanny for his size and he was an excellent interior passer that created plays whenever he did.
     
  20. eman

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    Dmo was my biggest head-scratching disappointment last season. Not ready to give up on him yet. Let's see how he looks in six months...
     

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