Out of curiosity, which? I was making a specific comparison about two high-profile cases. I never made such a blunt statement. The Fed government ONLY prepares for likely, devastating thngs-- something you claimed the two verdict countdowns were not qualified for. Ready means ~prepared, ~planning et al. It does not mean doing and it doesn't come with a percentage of likelihood like the weather....
Where did he take Police work in to his own hands? You can make that claim a million times and every time you will look like you are grasping at straws to support a weak argument.
I know. It is frustrating, but I feel I owe it to accuracy to correct his misrepresenation EVERY TIME.
So what's the general consensus here? I'm in the camp that Zimmerman acted in self-defense. But, I do think he'll get charged.
Tookie Williams, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Hurricane Carter, just for starters off the top of my head What's the difference between the statement I made and the message you were making in the posts of yours that I quoted? I tried for a page or more to get you to explain. No, it doesn't. That was the whole point I was making. They have preparation for very unlikely things such as a Chinese attack, rogue Russian nuke coming at the U.S. etc. They absolutely do not only prepare for LIKELY devastating events. An attack from China or a rogue Russian nuke are both extremely unlikely. Again, there is zero proof that people were ready to riot. You admit that there can't be proof. So aside from race (which you mentioned first... not me) what are the factors that cause you to state that?
It would have been nice had giddy not used the rathole sidetrack tactic of making a racist statement to begin with.
What did I saw that inaccurately characterized what had or was going on... other than a difference of opinion on what "ready" means?
I saw no evidence that black people were ready to riot if OJ wasn't acquitted. Yet you claimed the case was that they were ready to riot had OJ been convicted. Are you now going to say that they were ready to, but wouldn't have rioted? Is that really what you meant? They wouldn't have rioted, but they were just ready to riot. They had on their riot sneakers in case after seeing the verdict was an OJ conviction they got the wild whim to run out and cause massive destruction of property, possible arson, and assault. Is that you're position? You're really stretching it by trying to claim that by saying they were ready doesn't mean they would have rioted. But I'll give you the chance to explain what you mean by your statement that they were ready to riot.
Yeah, I really didn't understand that to begin with, and hoped that it was just some ill chosen words. No matter what questions I asked, he never seemed to back off of that idea.
A gang founder, a cop-killer and a triple murderer? Hard to find room to protest with those guys. The difference is that you tried to convert a comparative comment I made on two specific cases into some broad statement about The Norm. And I thought I was the one who thought the government wastes resources (time and money) on goofy stuff. As always I just follow the lead of the Clinton Administration. Do a little googling and you'll find links to rappers writing music about rioting in the streets over Trayvon Martin. It's universally true that you can't prove something that has not happened. Not sure why you keep trying to throw that at my feet. Race has been all through this thread. I entered the discussion late....
No. I am saying that the racial aspect of this case is not as pronounced as you make it seem and you are the one who tried to flip the script by bringing up race riots.
None of what you said addresses the point. What I care about is your assumption of what would have happened and what might happen based on nothing. That was the whole point. If you think being prepared for possibilities is a waste, and the kind of preparedness that's been going for decades, you can start a thread about it. Though making contingency plans is scarcely a huge expenditure by the govt. HAHAHAHA! really? Which rappers? Even if it is true, because some rappers made some music about something it's going to happen? I keep throwing at your feet because that's the point. You're stating something based on your beliefs about a certain race when there is no proof that can back it up, and you admit that to be the case. When it comes a race rioting if they don't like the verdict you were the one that brought that into this thread.
Yeah, I brought them up but I didn't invent them. There were scads of video of community leaders in Sanford making pleas for peace. There was a lot of tension at the time when it was announced whether or not a special prosecutor would bring charges against Zimmerman. And next comes the verdict... If I have time, I'll go back and look at some of the earlier pages in this thread. I recall there being a lot of stuff in there.
You didn't invent them, but the tensions have receded. If he walks, you will surely have protests. It takes a quantum leap in logic to just assume that you'll have a Rodney King style riot.
