American Muslims vs American Christians vs Worldwide Muslims

Florida Students Taught Terrorists Motivated By Islam “Suffer From Low Self-Esteem”…



Whitewash.

 

Egyptian Parliamentarian: “America Commands The Movements Of Its Apes And Pigs” In Israel…



Remind me again, how many billions of dollars in taxpayer aid do we send to the government this mutant represents?

Via MEMRI:

 

Sounds like something the leftists on this forum, like FranchiseBlade, etc., would have said.

 

Say it? I do more than say it. I have it tattooed all over my body.

 

Arab And Chechen Jihadists Flowing Into Southern Afghanistan To Battle U.S. Forces…



Where they will be promptly killed by U.S. Marines.

Via The Hill:

 

Indonesian Islamist Leader Says Women Use Their Secret Powers To Lure Islamic Politicians Into Making Foolish Decisions…



Men make “foolish decisions” because of women when they are thinking with the wrong head.

Via Jakarta Globe:

 

Ugh - backwards assed countries and their idioms.

DD

 

Latest Issue Of Al-Qaeda’s “Inspire” Magazine Celebrates Boston Bombings…



The same magazine the Boston jihadists used to build their pressure cooker IEDs.

Via The Cable:

 

ATW - you must have missed this post. I'm still interested in your take.

 

Apologies - yes, I missed it. Currently very busy at the office, will try to get back later.

 

The answer is simple, the people rioting are Muslim immigrants - of a different kind than the more handpicked ones in the USA - which is the elephant in the room the mainstream media will avoid actually pointing out. They are largely not willing to integrate themselves into society.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...day-presss-aversion-m-word-muslim-describe-th

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/youth-rioting-in-sweden-its-the-muslims-stupid/

They have been treated extremely well, especially in Sweden, so to say that "the anger is stemming from the treatment of ethnic minorities" is a complete joke. About 70-80 % of Sweden's welfare payments go to Muslim immigrants (who make up about 6 % of Sweden's population). Is their unemployment rate much higher? Yes - much easier to take benefits, plus, on average, they come from a far less educated background and cultures which place a much lower emphasis on education and hard work. E.g., far east Asian immigrants do not have comparable problems.

The mistake leftist governments made for ideological reasons was to let too many immigrants from cultures and ideological backgrounds which are not interested in making an effort to integrate into society in at the same time and to allow too much of their immigration into the same quarters of cities. I spoke to a person working at a kindergarden in Berlin-Neukoelln yesterday. Out of 50 children she is working with, a grand total of 2 (two) are actually German.

I still stand by that. Allowing people to immigrate who have no interest in becoming productive members of a society and in respecting the values of the society they immigrate into, but rather just want to grab benefits while openly showing their contempt for the "infidel" people of the country they immigrated into is a recipe for disaster.

Case in point:

Hate cleric Anjem Choudary: 'Lee Rigby will burn in hellfire, but Adebolajo is a nice man'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/40...ily-express-uk-news+(Daily+Express+::+UK+Feed)

THE horrific murder of Lee Rigby has left most of the nation in shock, but hate preacher Anjem Choudary has claimed the tragic soldier will “burn in hellfire” as a non-Muslim, while praising a suspect in the killing for being a martyr.

The extremist cleric, the former head of the banned extremist organisation Al-Muhajiroun, has sparked outrage after refusing to condemn Drummer Lee Rigby’s alleged killers.

Choudary, who claims £25,000 a year in benefits, was reportedly filmed making the sickening comments while he talked to his followers at his office near Walthamstow mosque last Friday.

In the poisonous speech, the hate preacher said the murdered father-of-one deserves no sympathy because he is a 'non-Muslim'

“Allah said very clearly in the Koran ‘Don’t feel sorry for the non-Muslims.'

“So as an adult non-Muslim, whether he is part of the Army or not part of the Army, if he dies in a state of disbelief then he is going to go to the hellfire.

“That’s what I believe so I’m not going to feel sorry for non-Muslims," he said, according to the Sun newspaper.

“We invite them to embrace the message of Islam. If they don’t, then obviously if they die like that they’re going to the hellfires.”

The preacher shockingly then went on to praise Michael Adebolajo, 28, who along with Michael Adebowale, 22, is accused of Drummer Rigby’s murder.

He said :“As far as they are concerned I believe that they were doing what they believed to be Islamically correct.

“Only Allah can judge them in the hereafter for what they did in their life. In their eyes they are martyrs and what I say is Allah may accept them into paradise.

“I believe all Muslims will eventually go to paradise.”

Referrings to him by his Islamic name Mujahid, he said: “I knew him for a number of years. Mujahid was a very nice man in fact.

"He attended lectures, went to demonstrations."

Worryingly, the hate preacher added "there is no difference between him and many others who attended our activities.”

Mr Choudary concluded his sickening rant by launching into an abusive tirade against the charity Help for Heroes, the Sun newspaper reported.

He said: “Who’s the hero exactly? The person who’s out in Afghanistan killing innocent women and children?

“What kind of world are we living in? The rest of the world doesn’t think that they’re heroes.

“I think we need to wake up to the reality. Hello, he’s not a hero if he’s out in Afghanistan shooting children is he?”

Scotland Yard has said it is aware of Choudary’s comments and shadow justice secretary Sadiq Khan, a leading Muslim MP, has condemned his views, saying they not reflect those of the Islamic community.

“Nearly all British Muslims will be shocked. For Anjem Choudary to preach hatred and division on the back of the murder of Lee Rigby is an insult to his family and friends who are still mourning his loss," he said.

“We must not allow him to hijack the religion of Islam and divide our communities.”



Choudary rakes in 25,000 GBP per year in benefits from hard-working UK taxpayers. It's a complete joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ssisted-monsters-welfare-benefits-system.html

 

Totally agree. But it's also a fine line. It's very easy to say "if you don't want to integrate, you should not be allowed to immigrate", BUT...there is a lot of conflicted sentiment there. I can understand the cultural friction to an extent, particularly for the first few generations (Houston actually provides a lot of examples of this sort of generational "blurring" of formerly substantial cultural impasses).

It also begs the question of how a westerner should "integrate" if he were to immigrate into a muslim country. Like I said, it's a bit more complicated, unfortunately.

There is a good (and old) argument between Judoka and I regarding this issue here. I think some of my thoughts have changed (improved, actually, haha), but the basic disagreement is essentially what we are discussing above.

 

My mother immigrated to a country on the other side of the globe she had never been to and she didn't speak the language of, so trust me, I know about cultural friction. But cultural friction is one thing. Ignorant ideological hostility and contempt for the culture you immigrate into is something else.

To me, it's simple. If I were to immigrate into a Muslim country, I would respect their laws and habits, even if I personally don't understand them or agree with them. If these were unacceptable to me, I would leave. I just spoke to a German guy yesterday who spent 10 years in the Middle East. For him personally, it was bearable, and business was great. But he left after he got married and they had a daughter. He said he didn't want his child to grow up in a country and culture in which women were treated like that.

 

Perfect answer.

 

Agree completely. I was curious how you would react to the opposite scenario (westerner immigrating to muslim country) and I think you answered perfectly. I have the same opinion, and it will likely be put to the test sometime next year. So we'll see.

 

I should have added to my last answer that this German guy of course made many (Muslim) friends he is still in touch with. There are many good people there, like everywhere. One can disagree with a culture/ideology but still respect the people (who happened to have grown up in a certain culture and only act in a certain way because that is what they know).

 

UK: University Islamic Society Claims Beheading Of Soldier A Hoax, Anti-Muslim Conspiracy…



What is it with Muslims and conspiracy theories?

Via Daily Mail:

 

Is This a Religion?
http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/06/is-this-a-religion/


Bob Smith’s excellent three-part essay “Islam is Fear”, adapted from Islam’s Fatal Flaw, appeared here a couple of years ago (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3).

Mr. Smith’s latest essay lists the overwhelming evidence that Islam is neither peaceful nor (mostly) a religion.



Islam is no more a “religion of peace” than “Jack the Ripper” is just another neighbor

by Bob Smith

I believe it is fair to say that before 9/11 most people in the US had little or any knowledge of Islam. If you had asked the average American anything about Islam, he would have responded in a positive manner. That’s because most Americans are fair-minded. Additionally, most Americans try to believe the best about something they are unfamiliar with.

But the 9/11 terrorist attack changed all of that. Suddenly there was a reason to look into Islam. Along with thousands of other Americans, I began reading about Islam. And what did I, and others, find?

The truth about Islam is not politically correct. But here it is.

Islam’s claim to be a religion seriously confuses the casual observer.

Yes, Islam does have some religious components. But the majority of Islam is a perverted totalitarian/political ideology that dictates almost all aspects of Muslim life.

Islam as a whole discriminates against, women, homosexuals, blacks, non-Arabs, non-Muslims and especially Jews. Islam has a “legal system” called Sharia. Sharia is a barbaric code that today, in the 21st century, dictates stoning of women for the “crime” of being raped. It also mandates amputation of hands and feet for thievery, and execution for anyone who tries to criticize, change or leave Islam. To make matters worse, significant portions of Islam’s theological texts incite its followers to commit horrendous acts of violence while enforcing religious law (Sharia) and “spreading the faith”.

Muhammad — Islam’s founder — is revered by Muslims (like a cult leader) as the perfect human. Muslims are supposed to make every effort to live lives similar to Muhammad’s. But Muhammad — according to Muslim sources — was a pedophile, a rapist, and a murdering thug.

Don’t be misled by PC talk of “cultural sensitivity”, “coexist” signs, and “interfaith dialog”. Below is a short list (this list can easily be expanded) of global violence driven by Islam. Ask yourself: Is Islam really like Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism and other religions? If you think so, prove it — send me an equivalent list:

• In Thailand, Muslim terrorists were responsible for over 4,000 deaths in the past ten years.
• In the Philippines, Muslim terrorists have been committing murders and violence for more than a generation.
• In Myanmar, the Muslim population can’t get along with the Buddhist population.
• In Pakistan, Muslim terrorists have turned the entire country into a killing field. They kill teachers at girls’ schools, and murder medical professionals trying to eradicate polio. Sunni and Shia Muslims routinely bomb each other’s “worship” services. And they have managed in a generation to ethnically cleanse all but a handful of Hindu and Christian minorities.
• In Afghanistan, the full force of NATO and the US military has been unable to keep the Muslim Taliban from making life a living hell. NATO and the US can’t even kill the suicide bombers faster than Islam can produce them. The Taliban blow up and gas girls’ schools. They destroy 2,000 year old Buddhist archeological treasures. And no Muslim anywhere says a word.
• In Bangladesh, Muslims have killed and ethnically cleansed most of the non-Muslim population since its founding in 1971. Recent riots by Muslim religious fanatics have brought hundreds of thousands of into the streets, killing hundreds while demanding Sharia law.
• In India, Muslim terrorists have been killing Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists for centuries. At one time, the greater Indian civilization included most of Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. The population was essentially 100% Hindu and Buddhist. It included virtually no Muslims. After the arrival of the first Muslims in 711 AD the largest holocaust in history began. Over a period of centuries, somewhere between 125 and 250 million Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists were murdered by invading Muslims. To this day India suffers violent Muslim atrocities almost on a daily basis — and Muslims consider India “unfinished business”. A single Muslim terrorist attack in Mumbai in 2008 resulted in 164 murdered and 308 wounded civilians.
• In Russia Muslims have carried out numerous terror attacks. In Moscow in 2002 Muslim terrorists seized a crowded theater and took 850 hostages. Over 100 theatergoers lost their lives. In Beslan in 2004 Muslim terrorists took a school, and held over 700 children hostage. The terrorists rigged the school with bombs. In the end, there were more than 300 deaths including 186 children. Muslim terrorists have bombed Russian trains and planes on numerous occasions.

Western European governments, ruled by believers in Multiculturalism, have allowed a large number of Muslims to immigrate in the past generation and a half. How has that worked out?

• In France, Muslims now make up as much as 10% of the population. French Muslims for some reason cannot integrate with the rest of French population. There have been numerous deadly Islamic terror attacks. The situation is so bad that the French government has identified over 750 “No Go Zones”. The French government calls these zones “Zones urbaines sensibles” or euphemistically “ZUS” (see this French government site listing these ZUS). The French government has lost control of these ZUS areas. The Muslim inhabitants rule with Islamic Sharia law.
• In the UK, neighborhoods in London and other cities are now unsafe for non-Muslims. Muslims post signs proclaiming “Sharia Controlled Zones”. Young Muslim religious fanatics “patrol” the streets, harassing non-Muslims. And Muslims are responsible for numerous crime waves, including predatory child sex rings and the drug industry. There have been numerous Muslim terror attacks including the 7-7-2005 transit attack that killed over 50 people.
• In the Netherlands, the filmmaker Theo Van Gogh was murdered by a Muslim jihadist because Van Gogh had made a film critical of how Islam treats women. Gays and Jews are targeted by Muslim “youths”. And the Dutch politician Geert Wilders needs 24-hours-a-day protection because he is critical of Muslim immigration.
• In Sweden’s third largest city, Malmö has become a low-grade war zone where non-Muslims are not welcome. A Muslim rape epidemic puts Sweden at the top of European rape statistics.
• In Madrid, Spain, a 2004 Muslim terrorist attack on the subway killed 191 people. Muslims in Egypt have vowed to recapture Spain (which they refer to as Islamic Andalusia, al-Andalus.)
• In Denmark the writer Lars Hedegaard was nearly assassinated by a Muslim terrorist because Lars had dared to write about the realities of Islam. In Muslim dominated areas of Copenhagen, Muslim “youths” extort money from non-Muslims. In Copenhagen Jews are advised to not speak Hebrew, or wear skullcaps or the Star of David in public.
• In Switzerland, Muslims use violence and intimidation to control the drug trade and forcibly convert users to Islam. Muslim young women are murdered in family “honor killings”. A Muslim advocacy group has called for a change in the Swiss flag (red with a white cross) because it offends Muslims.
• In Germany, Muslims permanently scarred the Olympic Games with their 1972 terrorist attack on the Israeli Olympic team. Islamic terrorists murdered US military personnel at the Frankfort airport. Immigrant Turkish Muslims refuse to integrate with the German population. Native German children are routinely victimized by immigrant Muslim children at school.
• In Bulgaria, Muslim terrorists murdered Israeli vacation-goers.

In Africa and the Middle East, Muslims jihadists have been busy killing other Muslims and non-Muslims:

• In Nigeria the Muslim terrorist group Boko Haram has attacked the Christian community hundreds of times, killing thousands. Hundreds of Christians were murdered during the 2012 Christmas season alone.
• Mali, Chad, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, and Kenya all have active ongoing Muslim terrorist activities.
• In Tunisia, (starting point for the “Arab spring”),Libya and Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood and other fundamentalists are turning these countries towards more conservative Islam.
• Iraq continues to have almost daily atrocities committed by Sunnis and Shiites against each other.
• In Saudi Arabia, Muslim women cannot even leave their home without a male guardian. When the do leave they are required to wear a niqab. The city of Mecca does not allow any non-Muslims. Saudis still behead people for sorcery. Migrant female domestic help is routinely sexually and physically abused. Hardline Muslim clerics have been sent out to mosques all over the world in order to incite Islam’s most devout follows to commit violence in the name of Islam.

The rest of the world is not exempt:

• In both Canada and the US, numerous Islamic terrorist attacks have been carried out — and luckily numerous others have been stopped.
• In China’s western Xinjiang region deadly Islamic violence has claimed numerous lives.
• In Australia, even though Muslims only represent a small minority of the population, they are unable to get along with the host country. Muslims have been involved in numerous riots and police scams — all the while claiming discrimination.
• In Bali, in 2002 Islamic terrorists bombed a tourist district and killed 202 people.
• In Argentina, Muslim terrorists attacked the Israeli embassy in both 1992 and 1994. The two attack killed over 100 people and injured more than 350 others.

Such is the “religion of peace”.

 

^^^Not that I'm uninterested or anything but would mind maybe posting these sorts of things in a separate thread dedicated to the topic?

 

bobmarley having a ball trolling this thread with articles from Muslim Hate sites.