Marc Spears from Yahoo Sports: "Nobody" is interested in trading for Thomas Robinson

No, no, no.

They *can* trade for him. I know that. But they aren't going to want to add the salary is what I'm saying. They don't like paying the luxury tax. Adding 3.5 million for a guy that they don't really even need or isn't going to help them win a championship soon doesn't sound like something I see them doing.

 

What if part of the trade agreement was the Bulls were going to amnesty Booz and we were going to offer up at least or room MLE or possibly our regular MLE to save them even more money? ; )

What you are saying could be a factor and cause the deal not to get done. I'm just laying out how deals can happen. I'm not saying they will or won't.

 

Would you trade the #20 pick for Robinson?

I would not. I am getting Stromile Swift flashbacks.

At best, we can get a 2nd round pick. Even then, we might have to give money to the other team, since they know we will want to free up cap space.

 

I think paying a good starting C plus millions to unload a player is worse than nobody interested. Would you consider it interest in White if we traded him and Harden for the priveledge of writing the check to tell PP to go play somewhere else? I bet they'd be interested in White too then. The insider just isn't privy to that offer...yet...

Insider? Insert Mr State Farm's Internet French model's pic here...

 

Stromile Swift had a far better career than most #20 picks.

 

I'm guessing the Rockets years didn't bring up the curve for him.

 

I could still see someone giving up a late first rounder for him.

It would likely have to be a draft day trade, as most teams will want to wait and see if anyone they like drops down. A Miami, New York, OKC, etc could afford to stash him in lieu of drafting a different project. We might also have to give some cash considerations to even out the contracts a bit.

 

Trob is worth 3.5 million. He has rebounding skills. 2nd round pick, for Marcus morris worked, 2nd round pick for Trob will work.

 

Well Spears crappy theory goes out the window.:grin:

 

Robinson showed more flash in his rookie year between two teams than Swift did in a career.

 

Sure, but there are teams with enough cap room to absorb that contract, get paid doing it, and have it essentially act as an expiring. Not everyone will be able to sign a star, so those left with some room would want this deal. Problem is...that sounds like something that'd happen as FA draws to a close and not the beginning...

 

He is a good NBA player. Anyone that can average 20 ppg for a full season is pretty good in my book. Even on a bad team.

 

That scenario by itself sucks, but at least it gets the conversation going. Morey would ask for something else and maybe get another team involved. As long as he is playing smart we'll be fine as long as there are ideas being thrown around.

 

If I know Maury, and I don't, he'll bait teams with TRob and when they ask for TJones instead we say okay, but don't give him up cheap. We make them take Royce for TJones and we get cash back along with a 2nd rounder.

 

A first round pick from this draft for T-Rob might not be completely out of the question.

http://www.sportando.net/eng/usa/nba/56590/dario-saric-i-may-pull-my-name-out-of-the-draft.html

 

I see what your saying...I misunderstood. I was trying to figure out where the rockets trade came into the picture in that article.

your just saying we might use a first round pick on this guy since he wont play till next year.

I think that is wise, but we do have our early second that would probably be better for him.

 

Crazy idea, but...

Bargnani for Asik, Robinson, and White.

Gives us enough cap room to sign Dwight, with a line up like this:

PG: Lin/Beverley
SG: Harden/2nd round pick
SF: Parsons/Garcia (BAE)
PF: Bargnani/Jones
C: Howard/Motiejunas

IMO, Bargnani is much better (including defensively) than most people think - buy low and sell high. And his contract keeps your flexibility for 2015.

 

Come on Carl. You're trying way too hard to campaign against Robinson.

Did you just say that its really "Not that rare" that a 2nd round pick turns into a player like Asik or Chandler Parsons? You want to talk about available data, show me the probability of a 2nd round pick turning into a major franchise building block... And yes Asik & Parsons are major contributing pieces to this team. Both could be argued as the 2nd best players on a playoff team. Please show me the probability of a 2nd round pick becoming a near all-star level player?

If everyone was finding Asik's in the 2nd round, there would be no Charlotte Bobcats, or Sacramento Kings because the NBA would be flooded with great players.

Kenyon Martin, Dale Davis, Corliss Williamson, Ben Wallace-

These are similar players that didn't have great stats in their rookie year, and went on to play long productive careers.

Nobody is debating that Thomas Robinson did not have a bad rookie year, but there is raw talent there you can see from a mile away, and if im an NBA GM right now, there is no way Im at least not trying to figure out how I can snag Robinson from the Rockets on the cheap(on the cheap being key).

That's the reason that everyone seems to glaze over as to why Robinson has been traded already in his rookie season, and is set to be traded again... FINANCES. If the Maloofs weren't blowing their life savings in Vegas, more worried about their team than a reality TV show, and most importantly in the middle of selling their basketball team, there would never have been a Thomas Robinson trade to the Rockets to begin with.

This has been, and will continue to be about finances until his next contract when he might very well become a bargain.

I do get your point about the cap space he will take up at 3.52 mil and understand that Robinson will be overpaid next season. That's alot for a 2nd year player. I get it. Still about half the NBA has the ability to trade for him, and all it takes is two teams to be interested for the price to go from Thomas Robinson & Cash for a conditional 2nd round pick to Thomas Robinson for a future late 1st round pick.

What works out in that teams favor though is the fact that he will essentially be an expiring contract. If you are a team not in the mix for Dwight or CP3 this year, you cannot afford to take a one year gamble on a player like Robinson, who might not be Karl Malone, but could be an important part of your future... like a Dale Davis or Kenyon Martin possibly.

My guess is the Rockets will end up getting a 2nd round pick, and end up sending cash to offset some of Robinson's salary. If Robinson was drafted somewhere around 10 to 14 (probably a more reasonable spot) there would be a bidding war for him making 1.5 to 2 million next season.

Either way, its essentially a salary dump, but this is only because of Houston's poor bargaining position due to the well-known pursuit of Dwight that no other NBA team wants to see happen. NOT BECAUSE OF NO GM WANTING ROBINSON.

On second thought, maybe other teams would actually like to see Houston get Dwight just to screw with the Lakers.

 

Trob would be the #1 pick this year had he stayed in college for another year.