Only two front doors out of the store, and we all walk out both of them. With a name like yours, and you are calling others "creepy?!"
Yeah the entire 90 plus percent is sinking, but it is always consoling to think that many of us are far above the lower 20%. It also always good to chant USA! USA! USA! We have better health care than Zimbabwe, more economic opportunities than the average Mexican and more freedom than they have in Cuba , more vacation than the average Chinese. What more could you want? Besides if we drug tested all the "poors", as young elitists call them we would eliminate joblessness and drug abuse also-- just like in the glorious 1930's.
Welcome to the club. He's been on mine for a while now, having joined basso. The irony is that I have no problem with his posts outside of this forum, or basso's posts outside of D&D. I really wish that the ignore function was able to place someone on ignore just in a particular forum. I read their posts elsewhere, but when I do, I have to click on the "show post" button. Kind of a drag.
I have no idea on the %, but just from personal experience (my dad owns a small grocery store and I used to work there), there are plenty of folks that drive expensive car and is on food stamp. They somehow play the system. And yes, some of them brag about it. I think the most common thing is - they were older folks that have no job but do have plenty of money (from their family members that ARE giving/supporting them) OR they are any folks that have relatively "rich" family members that again clearly assists them. Now, I haven't been around the store for probably 15 years, so thing might have change. But this was not that uncommon at the time. It is something I hate seeing, but it doesn't mean at all to me, even at that time (and we have been very poor for many years in the past but never needed foodstamp thanksfully) and still now that food stamp is a negative to society. What it definitely means is, we can do better to improve the system.
Typical GOP Congressman and the food stamp program. ************ Farm Subsidy Recipient Backs Food Stamp Cuts By RON NIXON Published: May 22, 2013 WASHINGTON — A Tennessee congressman who supports billions of dollars in cuts to the food stamp program is one of the largest recipients of federal farm subsides, according to new annual data released by a Washington environmental group. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/politics/farm-subsidy-recipient-backs-food-stamp-cuts.html
UNREAL… Illegal Immigrant Mother of Seven Given Food Stamps, Meds, Housing, and Social Security – For 20 Years (Video) <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jBpEysmJ62Q?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> It’s Cloward-Piven on steroids. Illegal immigrant and mother of seven, Marita Nelson, receives $240 in food stamps, monthly medications, $700 in Social Security and a housing allowance. She entered the US by swimming the Rio Grande and has been on government assistance for 20 years. No doubt, an Obama supporter… Now she’s on a crusade to help other illegals sign up for their free stuff. You just can’t make this stuff up! Via Special Report: For the record… The Obama administration is paying recruiters to sign up more people on food stamps.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...o-Make-Crop-Insurance-Subsidies-More-Generous [rquoter]Congress Poised To Make Crop Insurance Subsidies More Generous by Allison Aubrey May 30, 2013 3:00 PM For decades, farmers have been getting checks from the federal government as part of a safety net to help protect against, for instance, the financial ruin of drought or floods. So last year when a big drought hit the Midwest, who paid for it? You did. As my colleague Dan Charles has reported, payouts from crop insurance policies added up to about $16 billion, and much of it was paid by taxpayers. And as Congress debates a new farm bill that will authorize future spending on crop insurance subsidies, it seems that the programs are poised to become more generous. Lawmakers are considering an additional program that would help farmers recoup even more of their losses than currently is covered by crop insurance. You see, the way crop insurance works, farmers are eligible for payouts not only when their crops fail due to drought or flood, but also when the prices of their crops drop. In essence, farmers with crop insurance are able to lock in a guaranteed price. Sometimes, like last summer, they're able to get the best of all worlds: High prices for their crops, together with a hefty insurance payout to compensate them for a small harvest. Since we, the taxpayers, pay about 60 percent of crop insurance premiums, farmers can get these generous insurance policies on the cheap. Farm state Sen. Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, is among those who think the program works. He summed up his support recently on the Senate floor when he said, "Crop insurance allows producers a way to manage risk, so they can provide a stable and secure food supply and pass their operations onto their children." But not everyone is so convinced that this is a success story. Critics say crop insurance has reduced the risk of farming so much that farmers are now incentivized to farm on marginal lands, such as wetlands or lands with less than optimal soil. "When the government is guaranteeing you [a farmer] 85 percent of your income, it suddenly makes a whole lot more sense to farm in places that might flood or have low soil moisture, which might not have been practical to farm if you simply had your own skin in the game," says Scott Faber of the Environmental Working Group. He also says the system helps the rich get richer. About a third of the subsidies go to the largest 4 percent of farm operators. In its farm subsidy database, EWG finds the largest recipients of crop insurance support receive more than $1 million a year in subsidies. And groups such as Taxpayers for Common Sense argue that the farm subsidies are overly generous — at a time when farmers are doing quite well. "When some of the worst conditions in the field produce one of the best years for the bottom line [of farmers], it should teach us a simple lesson — that agriculture safety net is too generous," says a Weekly Wastebasket newsletter from the group. Land prices are near record highs and crop prices are high, too — which means farmers are doing quite well. In fact, according to this USDA report, the median household income for farmers operating commercial farms in 2011 was $84,649 (from farming activities), and total household income (including nonfarm income as well) was $127,009. The median U.S. income is about $50,000. So, critics ask, should we be subsidizing farmers to the tune of billions of dollars a year at a time when the deficit is forcing cuts to federal spending, including cuts to food stamps? A version of the farm bill recently passed by the Senate cuts $4 billion from the food stamp program over the next 10 years, and there seems to be little support for scaling back these cuts. An amendment from Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-NY, to eliminate this cut failed. The House Committee on Agriculture is proposing even more draconian cuts to food stamps: More than a billion dollars each year.[/rquoter]
LOL! So 20 years ago, ~1993, the policy in plae at the time allowed her to receive these entitlements....buutttttt it's Obamas fault. She may support Obama but she can't voice her support with a vote. Come on that is such a reach.
Who Profits at Taxpayer Expense with the Latest Farm Bill Scam? Whenever Congress throws too much into one bill, special interests profit. The massive farm bill—which is already 80 percent food stamps—is no exception... So what about the rest of the bill—the farm-related part? Heritage’s Diane Katz reports that it includes subsidies for more than a few surprising recipients. In short, the farm bill is loaded with all of your favorite kinds of pork, directing your money to the wealthy, the well-connected, and the crooks. Consider this Exhibit 90 Jabillion of why the federal government is too damn big.
No question we can improve the system however in a country where children still go hungry I'm not in favor of throwing the needy in the trash because a small minority of people game the system.
Say what you will about the trolls of old, but T_J, texxx and Mr. Meowgi had schticks. They stuck to their guns and dammit if I wasn't amused. But, bobmarley linking to anti - Planned Parenthood articles written by Christian sites and anti-food stamp pieces penned by the Heritage Foundation without any hint of critical thinking and/or "considering the source" makes me long for the days of old.
That isn't what he claimed. I was trying to hold out on the troll label for you, but you're increasingly engaged in dishonest arguments.
I tired of responding, either to mock or hold up the irony mirror, and have just gone to ignore. He has crossed into la la land.
