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Realistically from a cap standpoint what would it take for Chris Paul and Dwight?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by eddiewinslow, May 31, 2013.

  1. tinywang

    tinywang Member

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    Just saying..you have the best pg and best center in the league with two positions that actually complement each other. If there was a duo I build my team around, it's those two. Also, unlike Harden, they both play D.

    Haters gonna hate. Just giving a different take. Stop getting butthurt.
     
  2. crash5179

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    Dynasty
     
  3. The Cat

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    The idea that Lin has negative value is something I don't understand. I mean, I get why the casual NBA fan might think that -- people want to believe Lin is overhyped (and he is, based on some broad standards) and not everyone understands that the $15 million cap hit was only applicable to the Knicks.

    In reality, though? The guy is 24 years old and a starting-caliber NBA point guard (14 and 6) with legitimate upside. At $8.3 million/year for two years, that's not a terrible contract. I don't think he's valuable enough to fetch a first-round pick in addition to taking his contract, but I think there are a handful of bottom-tier franchises that would gladly take him for a future 2nd. And the extra $4 million (in addition to his cap hit) that the new owner would have to pay Lin would easily be offset by all the sponsorships that come from Lin, so that shouldn't be a big factor. Or the Rockets could throw in cash.

    Asik goes without saying... he's a good NBA center on a reasonable contract. He'll have tons of suitors.

    That's basically what it would come down to... trading Asik and Lin for draft picks and/or non-guaranteed deals. I'm 100% that it can be done with Asik, 90% on Lin. Very doable.
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I agree. I think Lin is fairly valuable to certain franchises - bigger markets, franchises that are transitioning, specific offenses. I can even think of a scenario where he'd make sense for the Lakers. And he's only locked-in for 2 more years, that means he's an expiring contract after 1 season, that's valuable.
     
  5. thekad

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    Sign CP3. Trade Lin and Asik to the Lakers for Dwight. It's not that difficult, technically. It's just a problem convincing both players to come to Houston.
     
  6. Scolalist

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    We won't get both but hypothetically for it too happen I think it would go like this:

    Declining Delfino, Garcia, Brooks options

    Would create enough to sign D12 outright

    Then deal Asik and Lin for CP3 in a S&T or for picks and sign CP3.

    It's more likely we sign Howard continue to develop Lin, Asik, Parsons, TRob, Jones, etc and look to acquire a player like Aldridge, Love, etc using some of those players to make it happen.
     
  7. Matt78777

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    Agree this is most likely, but disagree with posters who say Asik + Lin to Clippers wouldn't work since they already have Deandre Jordan. It wouldn't be too hard to add a third team to the mix. Clippers would probably want a swingman, Asik would be highly coveted given he is a center on a good contract, especially when that third team could trade a little for a big.
     
  8. Cstyle42

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    If we get Dwight Howard and Chris Paul while keeping Harden and Parsons I would become a season ticket holder with my own club seating area.
     
  9. slestack11

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    Clippers would not likely trade CP3 to the Houston Rockets. However, they would be interested in dealing you guys DeAndre Jordan after you miss on Dwight Howard. DeAndre is a poor mans Dwight Howard. He is a worse free throw shooter than Howard, as hard as that may be to do, and he is just as incapable with his post moves too. But at least DeAndre will get Rockets on the highlight reels on SportsCenter with his dunks. And DeAndre is from Houston so he can be a hometown favorite.
     
  10. Fair Dinkum

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    Hey LA troll,

    It's your reaction I look forward to when your teams slump over the next 2-3 seasons!

    BWAAAAHAHAHA!

    You must sad and astonished to see how a team builds when you look at the LA teams and realize they are so completely in the s*****
     
  11. TheresTheDagger

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    They would if CP3 told them to or he walks.

    Houston doesn't have to trade assets to the Clippers to clear cap space. They can trade them to whomever. Perhaps Asik to the Bulls and Lin to the Knicks (hows that for a bit of Irony). Then, we sign CP3 outright.

    Teams that currently have soon to be F/A's under contract really have little to no leverage if the player wants to leave. And it doesn't look good these days for the Clips.
     
  12. slestack11

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    It's funny because the Rockets haven't done anything yet besides get lucky that Golden State passed on Harden for Klay Thompson and then barely made the playoff last year. And, quite frankly (as I mentioned numerous times), I don't think Dwight Howard helps the Lakers or the Rockets be championship contenders. I mean, guess I want Dwight to sign because the Lakers have no other options next season, but I am somewhat cautious that he will handcuff the Lakers franchise into mediocrity for the next 5 seasons if given that huge $118 mil deal.

    If Howard joins the Rockets, I'll give you that they'll be a playoff team for the next few years. I guess that's a huge step from the last 5 years for you guys.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Miami had tons of cap space. I think they had very few contracts on the books at the time. Their big 3 took less than the Max to make that happen. All 3 were free agents at the same time and coordinated it. Miami still had to pretty much go cheap everywhere else. But bets took less to play there and then they were able to build the supporting talent after that.
     
  14. dragonz

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    eat the fuking head.
     
  15. CCorn

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    Slestack, why do you post on a Rockets board if you hate the team ?

    It just doesn't compute. There are places for LA fans.
     
  16. Cstyle42

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    The west is wide open. In theory this rockets team was just thrown together in youth and this was just the first year. Lakers however just have hit their ceiling the sky is not the limit for those has beens. Houston getting Howard now versus lakers getting howard last year is a big difference in terms of system and current health status. Too bad the lakers can't do what san antonio is doing because the lakers are simply done. Now that that is put to rest just enjoy the rockets as they own you from years to come. Are maybe yall can watch yalls football team get beat by the texans... oh lol yall dont have one because houston beat out there too GTFO.
     
  17. radcan61

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    SAS said Dwight would sign with Houston for a 3 yr deal, how would that change this scenario.
     
  18. The Cat

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    It wouldn't and SAS is just referring to the player option, which we already assumed. It's essentially a three-year deal because Dwight would have the choice to opt out and sign another max deal (on higher terms) after the third year, much like LeBron will do next summer. But he'll still technically sign the four-year deal for insurance purposes, even if he doesn't have any intention of making it all the way through.
     
  19. OremLK

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    It would be technically possible, just expensive in many ways, to have all three.

    Then we would have the best point guard, the best shooting guard, and the best center in the NBA.

    EXTREMELY unlikely scenario and it would also be very difficult to squeeze in roleplayers around that big three.

    But still... that's a big three like the NBA has never seen...
     
  20. Moonscope

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    While it's unlikely that the Rockets get CP3 and Dwight, it is possible.

    From my calculations you can't sign both outright to their full max contracts without severely decimating the roster. The best option would be to trade T-Rob to an eastern conference team for a 1st round pick in 2014 then talk to both LA teams and tell them the first one to accept Lin and Asik for their free agent star in a sign and trade will get something back, the other team will get nothing as their player will sign directly with Houston. This way, you're pitting both teams against each other.
     

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