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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. AVoiceInACrowd

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    I messed up the previous post, so let me try again.

    1. Millsap isn't going to be a huge piece in helping a team win a championship. If you thought he would, then you would want him for Houston. But, since you don't think he would be a crucial piece, then what makes you think Boston would (It's an assumption based on wishful thinking, and not common sense)? Especially since Millsap fits Houston better than he fits Boston. Boston's greatest need is at center. That's the reason KG played out of position at center so much this past year.

    2. As you said, there is always going to be some assumptions made in a trade suggestion. But, when there are that many assumptions made, it's not a reasonable trade suggestion.

    3. Actually, that's exactly what it means. You look at his production. You compare it to what other starting pgs are making and what their production is. Then, it becomes obvious that Lin's production is easily worth the 8 million. It's a more objective way to evaluate it than going by what your opinion is of what you think Lin should be paid for his production. "Outmatched 75% of the time", your just making numbers up. There is nothing factual about what your saying.

    Yes, I've made some assumptions. But, mine is based on facts, human nature and what I've read and heard Morey say during interviews.
     
  2. Rokman

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    Man, forget Garnett! Sign Howard, and let Boston take their pick of who they want outside of Harden, Parsons and Howard and get Rondo!

    2013-2014

    P.G. - Rajon Rondo
    S.G. - James Harden
    S.F - Chandler Parsons
    P.F. - (Morey will have PLENTY of young high potential left overs to insert here)
    ..C. - Dwight Howard

    I assume they would want Asik and possibly Lin to start. I don't think you could get Rondo for any package without one or both of these guys in it.
     
  3. fattz

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  4. Rokman

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    Anyone want Chase Budinger? He's a free agent. LOL

    Hey Bud, Let's Party!

    For the record, I have no desire to have him on the team though he would be good off the bench for an occasional alley-oop dunk. He should probably sign with the Clippers. Would fit in well there.
     
  5. psman2

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    1. Trade Trob for future first.
    2. Sign Dwight Howard to max.
    3. Trade 1st round pick acquired from Trob trade and Asik to Boston for Garnett.
    4. Sign Garcia to room exception.
    5. Win Championships.

    Boston is a the verge of going young and rebuilding. A future first and Asik should be enough to part with Garnett. I think Garnett would waive his no trade clause to come to a contender and be reunited with McHale. His championships experience and willpower will do wonders for our young squad. Plus he is under contract for only two more years. So in 2015 with Lin and Garnett's contracts done we will have a some cap space to play with.

    Garnett can play the high post and still has a great mid range game, defense, and passing abilities. He would be a great pairing with Howard in the low block. This would be a set of twin towers that would work.

    We would still have Jones and DMoe that can develop under Garnett's tutelage for the next two years.

    Can Garnett still play defense against most of the PFs now is my only concern. I think maybe only someone super athlete like Griffin would be a problem for him. But having Howard to clean up behind him would help a lot. Plus with Parsons and the young PFs that should give us plently of options to play several different lineups.

    We could stagger his minutes so he can play C for 8 mins a game to give Howard a breather and let our young PFs get some pt.

    I would love to get Love or Aldrige but I don't think we have the assets to make it happen. So I think Garnett gives a great two year window to compete with Miami as the best team in the league.
     
  6. Hilarious

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    While this scenario is one of the seldom ones which would intrigue me to part with Asik, I have something against the idea to limit our window for a ring to 2 years...the situation we're in is suited for more imo but nevertheless not a bad idea
     
  7. pcheung08

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    I hate Garnett but you want him in your team. He sets excellent picks and a much better defender than Asik with a respectful mid-range. He showed in the Knicks playoff series that he still can play. I would agree Rockets have a very good chance winning a championship with him joining with DH.

    Tmo, Tjones and GSmith can interchange for backup C and PF depending on lineups. Able to re-sign Garcia is also huge. After 2 years both Lin and Garnett contracts expired (20M?), Rockets still have cap room to sign an elite/all star player.

    A very good idea in my opinion if Boston would bite.
     
  8. Rokman

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    So y'all want to trade a 26 year old 2 year player who is showing the league he is legit and still getting better for a 37 year old 17 year player who is well past his prime . . . . . . Thank GOD y'all are not GM's!

    The ONLY way I take Garnett is if I get Rondo too. Period. They can have Asik, Lin, Picks, and some of our young guns (not Parsons).
     
  9. jvu

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    harden/asik/robinson for paul george/hibbert/west salaries match

    Lin 6'3 / pat bev 6'3?
    George 6'10
    Parsons 6'9 /
    west 6'10/ donatas 6'11
    hibbert 7'2

    tallest starting lineup by positions team would've killed okc

    Lin/bev > fisher
    george >> selfish
    durant >> parsons
    hibbert > ibake
    west > perkins
    bench > okc
     
  10. jvu

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    Than sigh DH smith or paul

    Paul
    George
    Parsons
    West
    Hibbert
    or
    Lin
    George
    Parsons
    Howard/west
    Hibbert
     
  11. Fair Dinkum

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J Sizzle
    Can you explain how we would afford that, please?
    I think you're just asking me to do it just so you can pick me apart.
    Here you go...

    Current cap commitments given that we waive all non-guaranteed contracts except Parsons, Beverley, G.Smith, and Ohlbrecht.

    Harden 13.6
    Asik 8.3
    Lin 8.3
    Robinson 3.5
    White 1.7
    Jones 1.5
    D-Mo 1.4
    Parsons 0.9
    Beverley 0.7
    Ohlbrecht 0.7
    Smith 0.8

    Total 41.4 million

    I'm working with a cap set at $62 million.

    Reason:
    Cap stuck at 58 for last 3 years, estimates of $5 billion (20%) record breaking league revenue increase this year from China sales http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/13/s....ap/index.html

    62 -41.4 = 20.6 million cap room

    (July 10) Sign Dwight Howard max = 20.5

    How:
    Sign outright using cap room

    Reason:
    I'm not gonna go through all the reasons, read my sig. Mainly because Houston chicks rock.

    (July 15) Trade for Josh Smith 4 / 14m

    How:
    Send Asik + T-Rob (11.8) for J.Smith (14)

    Reason:
    4/14 is not the max for J.Smith but is 105% of his current 13.2m salary. I think J.Smith will take a little less to play with his friend Dwight. Smith has also indicated he wants to leave Atlanta. Its hard to force Atlanta to do this trade (why would they want to help us?). Atlanta did try to trade Smith to Houston for Asik and Parsons at the deadline so we know they are interested in Asik at least. I think they could be convinced to take T-Rob as he is a top 5 draft pick and Atlanta has had success developing young big men like Horford.

    After the acquisition of Howard and J.Smith

    Lin 8.3
    Harden 13.6
    Parsons 0.9
    J.Smith 14.0
    Howard 20.5

    Beverley 0.7
    2nd Rounder (???)
    White 1.7
    Jones 1.5
    D-Mo 1.4
    Ohlbrecht 0.7
    G.Smith 0.8

    Total Cap Hit = 64.1 million


    I believe we could use some "exceptions" to sign some veteran role players to round out the roster.

    ***This numbers I used are not precise and this is a rather simplistic method of how we could trade for Howard and J.Smith. Obviously, an increase in the cap limit would effect the first year max value of Howard, but I think we could probably waive non-guaranteed contracts of G.Smith and Ohlbrecht if needed.

    For the real capologists out there, feel free to pick apart my scenario... always willing to learn from the experts.
     
  12. Since75

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    Thoughts on this deal:

    Rockets trade Asik and Lin along with Dmo
    New Orleans trades Gordon and Anderson

    Rockets get a stretch 4 who rebounds about as well as the previous PF's but is a much better shooter.

    Rockets get another legit scorer in the backcourt.

    New Orleans can start Asik and Davis upfront and Lin is a solid starter to go along with Rivers.

    This trade works moneywise but is totally contingent upon Rockets getting Howard in FA first.

    I know Gordon has been hurt constantly and makes a lot of money but that in itself be the impetus for NO to make the move believing they're ridding themselves of an albatross contract.

    Lineup
    Howard
    Anderson
    Parsons
    Harden
    Gordon.
     
  13. RickyNewport

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    This post is an example of what drugs will do to your brain. Just Say No...
     
  14. RickyNewport

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    Gordon is always hurt. Not worth trading Lin and Asik for him. Unless Morey was going to use Gordon to try to get DMC, LMA, or Love _ all those teams could use a shooting guard.
     
  15. Since75

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    I agree about Gordon being hurt often. The key would be Anderson. You know how I feel about DMC so that would be even better. I was just wondering about the idea of a possible healthy Gordon along Harden, Parsons, and Anderson on the 3pt line. What a nightmare for opposing teams trying to double on Howard!
     
  16. DonatasFanboy

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    I think Gordon would be a fair gamble if you have a Harden-Howard core in place. When healthy, he has Mitch Richmond-esque talent. Kind of reminds me of him. If he's healthy and happy, that team would be one of title favorites. Would he be happy to be no.3 with the Rockets, or does he prefer to be the "franchise player" with the Suns or some other team?

    I suspect that the Pelicans wouldn't part with both Anderson and Gordon, though.
     
  17. bgp10626

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    we we do a 3 way trade with clips and magics

    Hou in: Crawford
    Hou Out: Lin + Delfino + White and maybe one of our other PF.

    Orl in: Butler + Bledsoe
    Orl Out: Trade Exception for Howard and

    Clips in: Lin + Delfino + trade Exception from Orl 8.7M + White
    Clips Out: Butler + Bledsoe

    trade #2

    Hou IN: Anderson + 2014 First Rounder
    Hou Out: Asik + D-Mo + T Jones

    NO In: Asik + D-Mo + T. Jones
    NO Out: Anderson + Picks
    then we should have money to sign Paul and Howard i think.

    Paul / Beverley / Brooks
    Harden / Crawford
    Parsons / FA
    Anderson / T.Rob /
    Howard / Smith / Rookie

    What do you guiys think about this line up
     
  18. Since75

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    I would hope that NO would feel getting rid of the Gordon contract along with gettting a couple of bigs and a PG was worth moving Anderson. Davis is the heir apparent at the 4 anyway and Rivers at the 2. NO is going to be winning for a few years anyway so why not go with youth. Even Asik at 26 is not that old to build along with Davis and Rivers and the 6th pick. Just a thought. Hate to say it but Parsons may have to be a part of it if the NO lotter pick was involved. Thoughts?
     
  19. RickyNewport

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    I would love to have Anderson with the offense we run. We need a legitimate consistent 3 point shooter and he actually stretches the floor because he can't be left open from the outside. But I heard before that N.O. said they weren't going to trade him but maybe they would if they got a chance to move Gordon so you never know.

    You're not by yourself on DMC buddy... I would trade EVERYBODY without a beard for him. If Morey could get him to Houston with McHale and Olajuwon he will probably be the best big man in the NBA in a season or 2...
     
  20. Since75

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    No doubt about DMC. I wish other Rox fans could see it that way as well. The kids' only 22 and if anyone can remember back Dream had a issue with his temper initially too, but in time he calmed down. Not comparing the two in any way other than the temper.
     

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