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[CBS Sports] Howard no lock for Lakers; interested in Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 19, 2013.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    It is absolutely circumvention and your description nails it.

    IF they made that deal under the table, the Lakers would refuse to honor it. If Dwight and his agent caused a fuss at all they'd have to make public their agreement. If they did that, Stern could veto his contract, there could be perjury charges, the Lakers would get slammed with fines and draft pick compensation. And after all that he still wouldn't be able to go to the Nets.
     
  2. xiki

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    Bwar - har - ha ha !!! :grin:
     
  3. megastahr

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    ahh yah thanks...I am being more careful in my responses now haha.
     
  4. redhotrox

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    Rockets' latest twitter following...

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  5. Fyreball

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    The Rockets started following Dwight last off-season, didn't they?
     
  6. redhotrox

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    Guess they unfollowed him somewhere along the way, because it's showing on my activity feed that they just followed him.
     
  7. BigBird

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    I believe last offseason they followed hedo, big baby and earl clark along with Dwight right? Seems to me they might just be trolling, whoever controls the Rockets' twitter feed has a pretty good sense of humor about things
     
  8. redhotrox

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    Most likely so. Probably means as much as the Johnny Rockets "clue" did. :p
     
  9. cmoney23

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    RocketBlood posted it in the other thread but 'Magic Insider' Brian Schmitz:

    It's gonna take a lot of guts for Dwight to leave LA. I don't know if he has them, to be able to handle the criticism he'll receive. It'll be LeBron like.

    Houston is the best fit with Harden and the young players. ... Less pressure on you. Less media pressure.

    I have a feeling that may be an escape for him. Dallas will throw everything at him. I'm not sure they are quite there yet.

    You have a situation in LA where:
    -Dwight isn't crazy about the coach
    -isn't crazy about playing with Kobe

    Lakers are going to need younger pieces and I don't see how they're going to acquire them over the next few years.
     
  11. Aleron

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    The what have they done in the last 10 years thing always strikes me as desperation, just about everyone knows it doesn't mean a great deal.

    Maybe someone should take a time machine back to 2004 and tell Shaq not to go to Miami, and on your way, be sure to let KG and Ray Allen know about Boston, past 10 years and everything.

    Plenty of teams have winning cultures (plenty have losing too), but beyond that it's all about the players, your results in 2008 don't matter, your roster does.
     
  12. J.R.

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    Yeah, it's Hoopsworld so I'm not sure why I'm posting this but Hoopsworld's Steve Kyler:
    (I'll warn you: he doesn't paint the prettiest picture for Houston)

    We never had a situation like this in LA. This was a shotgun wedding. He wanted to be in Brooklyn. Other people in his life convinced him LA was going to be great. It would be a dream scenario and it went as bad as it could. He didn't want to go there in the first place. ... Lakers will have to convince him of how this will be better. I'm not sure they got off to a great start (by throwing their arms around D'Antoni). That's a huge red flag. If they do fire him now, he'll get labeled for that. He doesn't want anything to do with that. They have paved the road out of town for him and how they have managed things. End of the day, money rules. 30 million is 30 million.

    ...

    The big change for Dwight is he got a new circle of people, or rather an old circle of people back in his life, one being his dad. His dad is singing the song of go where you're happy. If you're happy, you'll play better, you play better you win, everything you want comes from winning. That's the song Atlanta, Dallas, Houston will play. We're all in love with Houston because Houston can do it, but Brooklyn is in the mix, Cleveland is trying to get in, Golden State wants in, everyone will make a run at Dwight and tell him he can make more, do more, be more, win more there than he can in LA and they may have a case.

    ...

    Big challenge in Houston is what Dwight doesn't know at this point. It's a fractured organization. A coaching staff that's run by McHale, really run by his assistants, Kevin is a figurehead, a nerdy front office with Daryl Morey, that's not necessarily on the same page as the coaching staff, an organization tough on free agents, they play the restricted FA card as hard as anyone in sports, very good getting low priced talent so no one is overpaid(you think about Chandler Parsons). You start to run into a point where you have to start paying people and then there's a ruthless business angle. Why is SA in the Finals? Everyone is rowing in the same direction. They are unified top to bottom. Miami is unified. Pacers the same way. Teams that have issues don't have success. Orlando had issues. Golden State, some other teams that were competitors, Memphis & Hollins weren't on the same page. When you have that fracture, it generally shows in the postseason. Can Houston sell to him that's a championship team? I think the team that can sell him that will get a whole lot more attention from Dwight than maybe they are justifiably deserved of.

    ...

    July 11th is the soonest he can sign. He can do the whole song and dance midnight July 1. It will be a good 11 day circus for sure.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Geez, I wonder who has reasons to tell Steve Kyler del HoopsMondo that Houston is a "fractured organization" that Dwight should be careful about joining.
     
  14. J Sizzle

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    Not sure how a fractured organization managed to get the most inexperienced team in the league into the playoffs...but hey I guess we did it...
     
  15. hooroo

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    I know there are people on this board who try to discredit McHale but when Sampson was running the show it was clearly a different product on the floor.
     
  16. Fair Dinkum

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    This line was the worst of his opinion on Houston...
    It's a fractured organization. A coaching staff that's run by McHale, really run by his assistants, Kevin is a figurehead, a nerdy front office with Daryl Morey, that's not necessarily on the same page as the coaching staff...

    There maybe some truth to it but this and the rest of the Houston rant was mere speculation on his part and really doesn't hold much water. I don't know this guy Steve Kyler but why is he trying to push back on Houston? Is he part of Dwight's camp and they are scared there's been too much good Houston buzz? Not sure. But I talk it with a grain of salt just like the Hoopsworld article yesterday that said Houston was the favorite with LA, and the others a distant 2nd.
     
  17. ROXTXIA

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    What these hoopsworld (pardon me: PUKE BLARF HEAVE; ok, I'm back) creative typists don't grasp is that we wouldn't be in a position to sign Dwight if Morey were handing out ridiculous contracts like many GMs do.

    Granted, Morey's moneyball approach is very revolving-door, even cold. But he'll pay those who earn it. That Kyler uses Parsons as an example is kinda douchey. Parsons is outplaying the contract he signed and can't be paid yet.

    I swear, your Kylers, your Ingrams, of the world listen to agents (who are just using them to get info out) b**** about the Rockets front office but maybe they should talk to buttsore GMs who hand out huge money to the Blatches of the world.
     
  18. ZNB

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    9-7 a little over .500 and this is CLEARLY a different product on the floor how? We ended the season a little over .500 so i would say it was pretty much the same. And i give credit to the coaching staff for having a successful season. Was coach perfect? No. But he did get better as time went on. That is all you can ask for both your players and coaches if you ask me.
     
  19. hooroo

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    By your logic the Rockets played the same way as the Lakers because they tied their season record.
     
  20. The Cat

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    There's no truth to it at all.

    Kyler employs Bill Ingram, he of "Rocket Guy" fame, who the Rockets shut out years ago due to numerous bull**** rumors and general unprofessional behavior. Since then, Ingram has published numerous hit pieces on Morey and the Rockets, going as far as to make up alleged "feuds" between players and the front office. Part for his own ego, part because controversy sells. Kyler is his boss, so...

    The only guy at Hoopsworld I take at all seriously is Kennedy, and only because he's a complete kissass to NBA agents. He won't tell you the whole story, but when it comes to free agents, he'll repeat what he's fed by the player's agent. Kyler and Ingram are completely worthless.
     

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