Paul George has the benefit of playing with an excellent power forward, a center who can catch, and a point guard who doesn't try to destroy the backboard with his jumpers. George has a great supporting cast and he took 14 shots and averaged 17 ppg during the regular season playing the weak eastern conference. Parsons took 12 shots a game and averaged 15 ppg and he's a darn good defender and a better shooter than George. And all Parsons really has is Harden (who took 17 shots and averaged 26 ppg). George isn't much better than Parsons. But yet the people who want to trade Parsons are the same people on here kissing George's @** and then they try to say George is on the same level as Harden. Lmao.. Well if that's the case we have our 2nd star player in Parsons folks...
Wow. George plays elite defense and scored more points than parsons despite playing at a significantly slower pace. Parsons numbers are a little inflated. People on this board are really overrating parsons. Georges offense is coming along nicely considering his age and potential to improve in thay area. His defense is already very good and that is half the game. Parsons was not able to play consistent defense once his scoring load went up.
Please explain how Parsons #s are inflated...??? And I see you fail to take into account that George has one of the best rim protecting centers in the NBA and a bull of a PF in the frontcourt that forces teams to take more perimeter jump shots and stay out of the lane which helps their perimeter defenders. Go look at the players they call great perimeter defenders and just like George they have good shot blockers behind them. And don't forget on offense George has the benefit of the inside out game. He has a power forward that puts up all star #s and a center that can score in the paint and he plays in the east. But you go head and explain how Parsons #'s are inflated...
Found this interesting vid on the MMA training of Roy Hibbert and Paul George. Don't know where to park this so I'll just put it here. Hope our boys are also able to get the same kind of training. It seems really good for building up the physical stamina and ability to withstand the beatings they take in the games. If Jeremy had had this MMA training then maybe he would have not been as impacted by the hit he got from Stefolosha on his chest. Sorry I don't know how to post the video so here is just the link to it. http://www.nba.com/pacers/video/2010/09/01/hibbertkickboxing100901-1404871/index.html
Notice how I said elite. The top scorers in the league, like James Harden, Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant are good enough to lead their teams to the playoffs while being mediocre defenders. I'm not talking about guys like Kevin Martin or Monta Ellis. And the main reason I said this is because in offense individual scoring can often be more important, and on defense it is more team oriented.
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Let me rephrase that - if Lin wasn't Asian, didn't have annoying fans, didn't have the exposure/expectations of Linsanity, was just a PG prospect that was drafted in the lottery, what would be the consensus on him then? I would think most people would think of him as an extremely high potential young player who showed his heights during his crazy run, and then consistently improved throughout his first full year of starting, while learning to play alongside another star.
Do you understand the concept of pace and higher number of possessions? I don't know how you can objectively say Parsons is on the same tier as George right now. Can he get to his level in the future? I think so, but as of right now George is the better player. Parsons' ceiling is George IMO but George still has room to improve. He's younger than Harden!
It's right up there with the concept of usage. George is better than Parsons sure, much better ball handler, better defender, not as good a shooter, they're both fairly average passers, although passing inside works a lot better for indiana, lol
It's only 9 players in the NBA that scored 20 plus points per game this season and 4 of them are on the same two teams. In 1999 there where 20 players in the NBA that scored 20 or more points per game. In 2007 there where 20 players that scored 20 or more points per game. In 2009 there where 20 players that scored 20 or more points per game. In 2012 it was 12 players that scored over 20 points per game. In this year there where only 9. It looks to me consistent scorers is what is rare in the NBA.
The regular season games because what Harden did when he was on the bench and not the #1 option with OKC doesn't matter to me. I'm a Rockets fan dude so I'm more concerned about what he does in Rockets Red...
If you read it correctly, he wrote a "little" inflated. He is talking about the pace of the game. Houston has the fastest pace in the nba (runs more plays in a game than any other team), while the Pacers are near the bottom at #25. Houston likes to run and push the pace any chance they get. And Parsons is the biggest beneficiary of this style as it fits his strength of play (runs the floor hard and finishes well). Seems like he gets at least a couple of easy baskets every game. While Indiana plays more of a half court game, so George gets those easy baskets less often. And hence why, I'm guessing, he says Parson's #s are a "little" inflated compared to George. Also David West isn't putting up all-star #s this year. 17.1 pts and 7.7 rebs are solid but not all-star #s.
He played well in 2 of the 5 NBA Finals games. So the "negative" argument basically comes down to three Finals games in which he came off the bench compared with two regular-season games in which he was the lead dog. Not as easy as you make it seem.
Yea I understand possessions. Do you understand what having a big man like David West means...? I never said Parsons was better. I said George isn't that much better than Parsons. And by the stats and eye test he isn't. But please continue to tell me how Parsons #'s are inflated.
He played well in 1 game, played mediocre in 1 game, and played poorly in 3 games in the finals. It doesn't matter whether or not he came off the bench b/c when he played, he ran the offense. And it actually is as easy as I make it seem. When comparing George to Harden, you can't criticize George for being shut down by the Heat since Harden was shut down last year.
So does the lack of scoring 20ppg in 2012-2013 season mean that someone doesn't have a good offensive game......if so then I guess all of these players suck offensively: Brook Lopez Monta Ellis Damian Lillard Deron Williams John Wall Kevin Love Tim Duncan Dirk Nowitzki Eric Gordon Rudy Gay Blake Griffin Al Jefferson Brandon Jennings Al Horford DeMarcus Cousins Dwight Howard J.R. Smith Josh Smith Chris Paul Ty Lawson Chris Bosh Klay Thompson Jamal Crawford Joe Johnson Danilo Galinari David West Zach Randolph Tyreke Evans O.J. Mayo Paul Milsap Marc Gasol Pau Gasol Jeff Green Steve Nash Since I've disproved your point please allow me the opportunity to prove mine. On the list above is a group of players who this past season scored less than 20pts/game, yet I think we can (we should at least) agree that these players have a more than "adequate" offensive game. Here is another list, a list of the top 20 scorers in the NBA this past season (of which 11 were over 20pts/game not 9 btw...http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Scoring.jsp) please tell me of this list who would be considered a "great defensive player", I've bolded who I think they are. Carmelo Anthony Kevin Durant Kobe Bryant LeBron James James Harden Russell Westbrook Steph Curry Kyrie Irving Dwyane Wade LaMarcus Aldridge Tony Parker Brook Lopez Monta Ellis Damian Lillard Deron Williams Paul Pierce John Wall David Lee Kevin Love Rudy Gay On this list I think everyone can agree that all of these players are good scorers, (plus some who didn't even make the list), and that if we were to make a top 20 NBA players this list wouldn't change very much, yet there aren't many "defensive players" on this list, why is that??? it's because stellar defensive players are a lot harder to come by than stellar offensive players...
