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[CBS Sports] Howard no lock for Lakers; interested in Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., May 19, 2013.

  1. PrettyEdward

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    Dallas already used their amnesty on Brendon Haywood.
     
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  2. supa

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    They have already used their amnesty on Hayward last year so no they cannot amnesty Marion
     
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  3. Sydeffect

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    That must be what I get for using Dallas fans for information
     
  4. RedDynasty

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    Let me guess: Omer Asik is SO much better, Dwight is an injury-prone, cancerous b*stard. We should go after {ENTER MEDIOCRE POWER FORWARD NAME HERE}.
     
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    Mayo will opt out but I don't think Marion will. He's making big money and he's going to get lowballed by Cuban if he does. The issue with Dallas is they have team options on a lot if players and restricted fa as well so I'm assuming they sign qualifying offers because they can't risk losing those players at low salary for nothing. Dallas will have to overpay for mayo because there arent many 2 guard in the fa class besides jr, kev Martin and iggy and they will all cost more. That being said I don't see mavs as competiton unless they trade their pick and Marion for future draft pics. Extra 8 mill could def help their cause.
     
  6. slestack11

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    Whether he goes to Dallas or Houston, he will be a part of a team that will face 2nd round defeat at best and maybe even one and done in a tough western conference. If he's gonna settle for mediocrity, why not stay in la and waste the next 5 years of the lakers time. He worked so hard to get to la only to give it up along with a year of security at $30 mil? Media will continue to comment on how he can't live up to lakers standards, but its better than being on mavs or rockets and having no press because nobody gives a damn.

    Howard is fools gold and likely dan fegan is creating this false demand with rockets, mavs, and warriors because there's no guarantee the lakers will even offer him the max.
     
  7. sammy

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    ^Bad post is bad.
     
  8. J Sizzle

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    LMFAO @ this
     
  9. RedDynasty

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    We get it, you don't like him and don't think he's a game changing player. Well, last season and many before, Dwight Howard was the best center in the NBA. He was injured for most of this most recent year, his first major injury of his career. And even still, he put up better numbers than all other centers. He + Harden + Parsons is a championship caliber team. They would easily be one of the top 5 teams in the NBA for the next couple of years, and could beat the Heat.
    Worth a max now? Yes.
    Worth a max after this coming contract? That's when I'll agree with your current assessment.

    But until then, you should just admit that he's still a top center and is simply not a negative contributor, but a hugely positive one.
     
  10. pwnyxpress

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    Besides Marion definitely not opting out of $9M+ at age 35 (though OJ Mayo would), the other thing to consider is they will have similar cap room to us (Dallas: post-Marion, $37M vs. Houston's, $39M) IF they do not give qualifying offers out to Collison or Beaubois. If so, their $37M is only for 5 roster players. Houston can spend just a tad more ($1.7M more, and they will) to keep Bev and Parsons, and have a 9 man roster. That is a pretty significant difference.

    So even if they get cap room similar to ours, it is for almost half the number of players :S That screams inflexible.
     
  11. slestack11

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    Here is how I rank the centers in the league right now assuming that Tim Duncan is not a center:

    1. Marc Gasol
    2. Brook Lopez
    3. Joakim Noah
    4. Al Horford
    5. Dwight Howard.

    Howard played through back injury and still led the league in rebounds last year, but it's his ability to help win games that I question his value. In the 4th quarter, you're better off leaving him on the bench until the 2 minute mark because of the Hack a Dwight. How does a player like that take a borderline playoff team to be a contender?

    In regards to Chandler Parsons, yes, he's a very under-rated player and well worth less than $1 million per season, but you are putting him up there like he's D-Wade or something in this Big 3 that you think the Rockets will have next season. The Rockets caught the NBA by surprise, but as teams started figuring out the single dimension offense, the Rockets fell almost out of the playoffs. If it weren't for a total meltdown by the Jazz, the Rockets wouldn't have made the playoffs.

    Just saying that Dwight Howard does not take a borderline playoff team to contender status. Lebron maybe, but not Dwight. Unless of course he miraculously figures out how to shoot free throws and actually stops complaining when he isn't the first option on every possession. With Dwight, the Rockets are maybe a second round team at best. So it's just not worth it for Dwight to move out to obscurity to get on a mediocre playoff team. It's better for him to just stay in LA and continue to get railed on by the media and fans out here for not meeting the standards of being a Laker.
     
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    Tweet this to Ingram lol
     
  13. Rox>Mavs

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    This post is full of so much fail and poor reasoning skills. Almost every sentence is based on misguided assumptions. For someone who thinks so poorly of Howard and yet thinks he really needs to stay in LA + the fact that you've already admitted yourself to be a laker fan here to troll smacks of insecurity and laker fear. How are you not banned by now?
     
  14. pwnyxpress

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    I think the fear of Hack-a-Dwight is overblown. People rely too much on emotions for that stuff. He shoots like 50%. If he maintains that, that is 1 pt per possession in a hacking situation. That's aight. In the OKC playoffs, people were like GO ASIK! Way to beat the Hack-a-Sik tactic! Dude shot 66% during the hacks, which in that scenario was just 1 extra FTM over his season long average. Quite rarely will that ever be the deal breaker lol. And if we're talking about the flow of the game, sadly, hack-a-sik would be just as disruptive to the flow...and that is who we have right now anyways.

    Your comment on the Rockets almost falling out of the playoffs is misleading, and you should know that (well maybe not, I have no idea what your knowledge is -- again, I've seen some pretty stupid stuff from you; can never tell when you're trolling, which I guess makes you a very effective troll). How tight were the last few teams in the WC? You could have JUST as easily have said, wow one or two games going the other way and we're suddenly 6th! seed. You make it sound as if Rockets went on a really long losing streak at the end there because all the teams "figured us out." We were just 5-4 in the last month, and yes, we did finish horribly! That is due to a host of reasons that not even Rockets fans can agree about (Harden iso ball too much? McHale = McFail? etc.). It happens. 9-5 the month prior. 6-5 before that. 8-9 the month before that. Yeah...definitely would not say teams 'figured us out.' Seems pretty consistent throughout our season.

    Again, your whole last point would have been invalid had we just won an extra two games or something and ended up 6th seed lol.
     
  15. slestack11

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    I think I'm making some pretty objective statements in all my posts. Because I'm not writing all pro-Rockets propaganda, maybe it's causing people to consider me a LakersGround spy, but I'm just here to have some good objective debates on NBA being that Rockets are in the news in this Dwight Howard thing. If I were on a Lakers board, it would just be the same old agreeing with each other on how the Lakers are the greatest franchise ever. These debates are always more interesting when they are between two people with different biases in my opinion.

    Plus, although I have been a Lakers fan my whole life, I actually am a 10+ year Clipper season ticket holder because the Lakers make you do like 5 years in the upper section before you qualify for the lower seats.
     
  16. rocketman84

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    You're delusional
     
  17. pwnyxpress

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    I've actually found a lot of your posts as not that inflammatory or trollish, but often factually incorrect or misguided. But ignorance shouldn't be confused with trolling. It would be nice though if you could every so often back up your comments with like, actual facts.
     
  18. PhiSlamma

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    You would think so.

    Sounds like the Lakers are playing a dangerous game here. They must be genuinely worried Dwight is going to walk.

    But if Dwight is able to identify Lakers front office people as the source of the leaks, then you'd think that would push him harder to leave LA. I guess that is what the supposedly fake Golden State rumor was designed to achieve, to smoke out the mole?
     
  19. rocketman84

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    No I think the GS rumor was designed to smoke out the mole in his own entourage. It's obvious the front office mole is kupchack, he's the one who had the exit interview with Dwight.
     
  20. xiki

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    Because he's a Laker fan who has Clips season tix? Maybe he's seeing things (Billy) Crystal clear?
     

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