So if Howard takes a 4 year contact to play with Golden State, How much would he make with the California state tax's they have? I know he might be open to take a lil less money to contend, but I don't know it he wants it to be that much I think Houston Is still n the drivers seat, McHale would be his best career move.. not to mention Dream right down the street
Why would the Cavs take on David Lee & Andrew Bogut? Thats ridiculous, Bogut hasn't been healthy in like 5 years and David Lee is also a risk. I think if the Cavs take back a salary, given that they don't package their #1 into a bigger trade, they'd do use it for Pau Gasol. They can take him on, make a run with Pau, or if it doesn't work out they have a $19 million expiry to work with at the trade deadline.
Why doesn't Duncan count? Because it shoots holes in your argument. I'd rather have: Hibbert Noah Gasol Lopez Davis Cousins Bogut Garnett Horford Duncan Pekovic Monroe Drummond Vucevic over howard.
Al Horford, Noah & Monroe are three centers I'd absolutely take before Dwight Howard. But I'd take Marc Gasol over all of them, dude is the best in the league now.
I never said anything about Houston taking on Lee or Bogut. What I said was those guys have trade value around the league and one of them could possibly be moved to a team with cap space looking to build/rebuild. And no, GS doesn't have to move half their salary to bring in Dwight. Once again, that won't happen. If Dwight goes to GS it will be a sign and trade. Like I said, these teams, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Charlotte, among others like Dallas...they've got to give the money to somebody. They have to pay out 90% of the cap. If the cap is $60 million that means they've got to pay out $54 million to players for the 13/14 season. If you are Charlotte and you are trying to lose, do you want to lock yourself up in a player like Paul Millsap or Josh Smith that will help you win a few games and lower your chances to get Wiggins/Parker but not make you good enough to win anything??? Of course not. If you are Milwaukee, who do you think you are going to get to sign there as a free agent.....Al Jefferson? Paul Millsap?? Josh Smith?? Guys are leaving there. Monta is leaving. Brandon is trying to figure out how to leave. Redick ain't re-signing. Once they sign their draft pick and match Brandon, they'll still be about $10 million short of $54 million and around $15 million short of the cap. Do you think they would take David Lee for nothing?? I bet they would. If Atlanta re-signs Smith for a max contract, and re-signs Teague for say $8 million (I'd be surprised), then they're still around $10 million short of league minimum and $15 million or so below the salary cap. Cleveland is sitting on about $15 million of empty cap space that they have to fill to get to 90% of cap after they sign their draft picks. Dallas is trying to maximize cap space to sign Dwight or CP3. When they get left out in the cold they're gonna have to put some salary on the books somehow. Mayo is probably walking away. Who they gonna sign? Detroit, after they sign their draft pick, they're looking at $14-$15 million to just get to 90% of cap. Houston needs $11 million to get to 90% of cap and we're trying to get a max contract. New Orleans is going to have to add around $9 million to get to 90% of cap. Philly has to add $7-8 million to get to 90% of cap. Portland has to add $7-10 million to get to 90% of cap. Sacramento has to add $10-11 million to get to 90% of cap. San Antonio has to add $8-10 million to get to 90%. (most likely will re-up Splitter and Manu) Utah has to add around $24 million just to get to 90% of cap!!!! Now, here's your "Big Money" guys. Dwight - max CP3 - max Iggy - likely max back to Denver Josh Smith - may get max Nik Pekovic - perhaps $12-14 million per from Portland or Minny Andy Bynum - which team is going to give him a long-term deal? Al Jefferson - perhaps $10-12 mil per season David West - perhaps $10-12 mil per season, most likely back to Indy Paul Millsap - perhaps $9-11 mil per season Next level guys that may get more than MLE Brandon Jennings Tyreke Evans - $????? which team is going to sign him long-tem above? Jose Calderon - $?????? $5-7 million per???? OJ Mayo Jarrett Jack Tony Allen Kevin Martin Tiago Manu That's probably the extent of guys that are going to get paid more than MLE. Everybody else should probably be signed for $4 million or less per season and teams like Charlotte ain't gonna sign up guys just to clog the cap. Expiring contracts have value for teams like Charlotte who are not wanting to contend but don't want to sign anybody to a long-term deal. Contracts like David Lee have value to teams that might not otherwise be able to sign a free agent for their cap space because of who they are (teams like Milwaukee).
You really hate the Rockets. Didn't even mention Asik, but you mentioned these old guys and injury prone centers.
A cpl things, the lakers won't be doing a sign and trade to make room for another team, they have no reason to increase his scope of choices, they might ultimately do one with cap room to get something back such as a tpe (i can see one situation where houston would agree to one), but they're not going to go ahead (although it turns out the whole GS thing is a smokescreen) The second is D12 and CP3 will have to choose before any team makes any more moves, there is absolutely no reason for another team to take a player to help you clear space unless said player has major positive trade value (e.g. Houston could fairly easily move Asik, however we would struggle to move Lin, and Lin has more trade value than Bogut (injuries), Jefferson or Biedrins(bad)), I don't know if you remember 2010, but basically the whole market was frozen until lebron, wade and bosh chose.
Glad we dd it. It helped Patterson grow which netted us Robinson and gave us the cap space to sign a max guy.
I have said Lakers will do a sign and trade to better their own situation. It's not about bettering Dwight's or the other team's situation. Lakers want to better their own situation. If he's going to leave, they'll sign and trade him for a TPE and one young player. And yes Dwight will make his choice, then when the other teams like Atlanta, Dallas, etc., realize they aren't getting him then they'll be scrambling to get the next best thing. That might be David Lee and Harrison Barnes in a 3-way netting LA a $20 million TPE.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c/year/2012 http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c/year/2011 http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c/year/2010 http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c/year/2009 Dwight Howard was 1st in PER amongst centers for 3 years and 2nd in one year. He was injured last season, forced to come back too early, and playing like he was scared of getting injured before securing his new contract. He was also 4th, 5th, and 9th in PER amongst centers early on in his career. Let's not forget how much he changes the game defensively. Overall PER amongst all NBA players: 2012 - 6 2011 - 2 2010 - 6 2009 - 4 The Lakers would want Barnes and Thompson. I think The Warriors say no to that trade.
You have artest jacking up shots, nash thinking hes still a star taking his 10 shots a game, gasol saying i need my 10-15 shots a game, and kobe screamin me me me me me. Pass me the ball, only kobe takes kobe shots. If you take a kobe shot im gonna beat you up in the locker room. And then dwight came in thinking when am i gonna get the ball. Then kobe said imma slap you. Fin.
Man are still at this nonsense? I asked you a direct question in another thread and you never responded. I'll ask you again here: 1) are you seriously trying to argue that Asik is as good or better than D12 now or will be? 2) if you're arguing Asik is better value, do you think he'll be the same value in 2 years when his contract is up? You can't have it both ways. If Asik is a better player than D12 then he'll get the max too. If you can get a supermax player like D12 by just signing him with cap space you'd be stupid not too.....sign the supermax and figure out what to do with Asik later. Asik is an awesome player but no where on the level of D12. If you think otherwise how many GMs you think will be paying Asik max money in 2 years?
