Games will have to be downloaded to the hard drive and tied to a gamertag in order to be played. If a game is tied to one gamertag and you try to play it with another (because it's a different system), they'll make you pay a fee because they'll know it's not the gamertag that particular disc was first registered with.
lol I was thinking the same thing. Only thing I can think of is when you put a game disc in your Xbox One, it creates a cache for that game that is not erasable and each new game comes with a New Game Code... so once you insert a game into your console and it reconizes it as a unique game, it will ask for the password that came with the game so if its used of course you won't have the code.
Regarding madantory loads and fees for used games, is it just me or is this comment stupid. Well, then make it so that the disc still has to be in the drive in order to play, even if you're really playing from the hard drive. Sure, you could still "install" the game on multiple consoles, but only one console would be able to play at a time because only one disc exists. You could still let friends borrow games and it wouldn't affect the used game market. Problem solved. If somebody borrowed a disc, installed it, and wanted to play without the disc in the drive, maybe then they would have to pay a fee. Hopefully, it really is something like that and some people have taken the actual quote from Microsoft and made inaccurate assumptions.
One industry guy on OS said focus groups and from meetings, the price not set in stone but definitely in the works if between 40-45 dollars after you actually buy or get a used game. I think thats insane
That's pretty much how it works on the 360, so why bother changing? Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot if they start pulling crap like this.
its already there.. i watch all my HD movies on my xbox streaming from my pc or a flash drive, you have hulu, netflix and all that, you can even rent new movies/tv shows, browse the web. watch live games with espn app, highlights, nba/mlb/nhl highlights with respective apps. facebook/twitter, skype, you can workout with kinect, keep your children busy with interactive sesame street... its a media center, i play games like 20% of the time..
But the problem is that it's a limited and stripped down and restricted version. I know a PC is way more expensive but at least I can do almost anything without the limitation. I'm better off building a $1000 ITX media computer that I can output to my TV. We'll see how and if the new Playstation and XBOX will support the open source.
Wow that's ridiculous so if your bro wants to bring over a game he better bring his system, or you'd have to log off your Xbox account and sign in with theirs and then download the disc? It might be a cheap work around but it's possible we might not be able to do that. This really does suck because me and my bro would need 2 games of the same copy and we couldn't borrow games. Dang. And how are we going to able to rent games? Is that gonna be a thing of the past or would they allow rentals through Microsoft service and the game would delete after the time you paid for the rental was up. A lot of questions.
Well at least the good news is that you can install and store stuff on an external HD through USB3 and not worrying about the limited internal storage.
I hate consoles. All I see it is a dumbed down PC that charges you a monthly fee to access its features in a limited fashion. Its heaven for developers as pirating on consoles is incredibly difficult and now they are targeting the secondhand sale market.
I don't care about the used game fee. Will I still have to get up to the change the disc if I want to play a different game? If not, I call that a win.
Sorry, I ended up missing this almost entirely (my girlfriend decided to break up with me via email shortly after the conference started...the email was bad enough, but during the Xbox reveal? Cold). Trying to catch up on things... They pretty much are used to their max. Developers can always throw in millions more to make things look/perform a little better, but the systems are pretty much maxed out. Lots of hacks/tricks to try to make things look better, or similar to what even mid-range PCs can do. Lower resolution (<720p), unstable framerates, repeated low-res textures, etc. It is definitely time for an upgrade. Plus, as I believe MS showed, you can do some really cool OS stuff with some better specs (not even necessarily more powerful stuff, just better designed hardware). I don't know if they gave a date (I doubt it), but both should be out by the end of the year. October/November time frame I'd expect (more so November I think).
Here is some new info for those who missed out. Via KOTAKU Regarding used games Via KOTAKU As far as i'm concerned the used game thing is a deal breaker. I love swapping games with friends and trying them out. The fact that i have to PAY to use something that my friend already purchased and OWNS is ridiculous.
ah so more clarification. thanks. doesnt seem as bad and i guess if someone wants to borrow your game you could just give them your username and pw for live. But then again you wouldnt be able to play your games so it gets tricky.
Love the idea of making it a media center. If any of you guys haven't seen what XBMC can do you're definitely missing out.
Why does a media PC cost $1K? Almost any video card can play 1080P, and most media computers have undervolted CPU's right? How much is video card that can put uncompressed 7.1 over HDMI? I'm confused
There's a weird contradiction there; so when you go and redeem a key and install a game, it's playable for every profile on that particular console. If you take the game to another console and install it there, you can play it using your XBOX live id only? So that means that each game key is locked to a specific console, and if that hardware ever up and dies, gets stolen, or you change harddrives, you'll never again be able to share permissions through parental controls? That seems like the only way that they can make this work. As a PC gamer, if this forces more and more people away from consoles and towards Android and PC, I'm all for it. To be honest, I much prefer the PC model anyway; games are non-transferable, but they all drop to under $10 within a year of release, and if that's what ends up happening for Microsoft, that would be a net plus in my opinion.
