[CBS Sports] Howard no lock for Lakers; interested in Rockets

Thanks!

This may be a reach, but if Dwight came to Houston, then it might help expand and grow Adidas market share in China. Could be a plus with Houston...

 

Yep. I keep heariig the same wrong perceptions over and over again. Asik and Lin each count 8 mil against the cap for Houston or whoever they might trade them to.

 

lol...

Can we post the basic facts that all should know on the main page? Or be like in a must read user agreement each time you log in? haha

"Asik and Lin each count 8 mil against the cap for Houston or whoever they might trade them"

"The 30 million number is not correct"

" it isnt IMPOSSIBLE to accquire two more max players"

Any more?


This would cut my posts in half though haha.

 

Wait . . . let me get this straight.

So now, the league's best center is considered too short to play center?

 

well no i dont think thats what anyones saying


i think we're saying asik is completely incapable of play PF so why not let dwight try?

it would be a challenge offensively for the twin towers but defensively forget about going inside if youre the other team

 

Thinking that Howard and Asik can co-exist is hilarious and making comparisons to Hakeem-Sampson, Duncan-Robinson, McHale-Parish is absurd. Each of these players mentioned were elite both defensively and offensively. Howard and Asik are very good defensively but are extremely limited offensively. Neither can dribble, pass, effectively run the floor, shoot outside of 6 ft, or defend the perimeter which is so important in today's game. Asik has zero offensive skills and Howard honestly isn't that much better, just more athletic, can catch the ball, and has a couple of very limited, and stiff, post moves. You possibly could play Dwight at PF if you pair him with a very skilled offensive center for it to work and even then it would have to be in spot situations due to today's perimeter oriented game.

 

Dwight and Asik would only be a situation lineup. They're just not offensively skilled enough to work together for an extended period of time. Asik and Dmo for Ryan Anderson and Robin Lopez would make the team better. We still would have a decent center and an upgrade at the PF position.

 

BIMA,

If you have time to answer, can you let us know the likelihood of BKN being able to trade for Dwight this summer. For instance, if Dwight says, "I'm signing with HOU in free agency unless I am traded to BKN", how much cap space does BKN need to clear in order to trade Lopez + fillers to LA for Dwight? I know they can't do it now, but how realistic is BKN's ability to clear up their cap space? Thanks!

 

The Nets are over the luxury tax, so it would be nearly impossible for them to create cap space. They can however trade within the 125%+100K salary matching.

Howard's max is about 20m. The Nets would need about 16m worth of salaries to match that. Brook Lopez will make 14.6m next year, so they could toss in Reggie Evans or Marshon Brooks and get pretty close.

The question is, if you're the Lakers would you even want Brook Lopez at that salary? Or with Kobe out for at least awhile, suck it up, take the hit, and get Andrew Wiggins with a clean salary slate in 2014?

Edit: Forgot that starting this year, teams above the tax apron can't receive a player in a sign and trade. So basically, zero chance the Nets are getting Dwight this year.

 

I can answer this one. they have almost 77 million tied up into 5 players. Total salary on the books for next season isnt even remotely feasible to get under the cap (or actually 4 million over as the rules allow)

So to sign and trade for howard they would have to gut their starting roster for cap space...most of which are untouchable (derron williams) or unmoveable (joe johnson)

So the nets, this summer, have a .000032 percentage chance of clearing cap space to SNT and trade for Howard. As the CBA prevents a team over the salaray cap (by no more than 4 million) to receive any free agent player via sign and trade.

 

If this is true then fine, but that is not how it was explained at the beginning of the process which netted us those two players, at least not as I remember it. My understanding was that it was only us who benefited from the 8mil/season average, and that any team taking them on in trade would be stuck with the actual amount being paid, not averaged in across the three years.

So you guys are stating unequivocally that if we traded Asik before the beginning of year three to, say, the T-wolves, that Minnesota would be paying 15mil to Asik, but he would only count 8mil against the cap. Is that really what you are saying?

That just doesn't seem right to me, but additionally, Les would be insane to allow it, as well as I would think the NBA would have a problem with it too. If I am wrong though, so be it.

 

A) Sign Howard
B) HOU sends Asik, Jones, and cash/pick to NO for Anders & Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=myw2slm)
C) Use remaining to lock up Parsons and sign minor FAs

2013-2014 Line-up

PG: Lin/Beverley/Rivers
SG: Harden/Rivers/Anderson
SF: Parsons/Delfino
PF: Anderson/Robinson/Motiejunas
C: Howard/Smith/Motiejunas

D) Contend for (at worst) two years

 

That team could contend for AT LEAST 4 years.

 

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This I would not be opposed to.

Rivers has good potential and would be a nice back up SG or PG...Anderson is a good player that would help right away.

Something tells me N.O. would want more than just that, but Asik and Jones would help them a lot.

Jones played well with Davis in college.

Might be a good fit for him.

 

I believe we'll have to send out either the combination of Jones + Motie or just Robinson to make the Howard signing alone work.

So I think jrossharden's potential trade scenario/lineup probably wouldn't be possible.

 

Robinson can go if needed.

I'm sure people will still want him because he's a raw but excellent athlete and rebounder.

Nobody has to go anywhere if Howard signs as a FA....

To improve around him however, I get what you're saying about a trade being needed....but I think Morey could easily swing a deal involving ONE of those three PF's, plus Asik and get back GREAT quality.

I couldn't see Morey giving away 2/3rds of the PF experiment AND Asik unless we are getting back an All-Star PF in return.

 

IMO Howard is using us as leverage to get traded to another team (such as BKN in a s&t).

Lakers will want to get something in return, and Dwight wants Brooklyn.

And now that our team is half-decent being interested in Houston sounds plausible.

 

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