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Jeremy Lin is a large reason of why we lost this series

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ScolaIsBallin, May 3, 2013.

  1. harden man

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    Look at the synergy numbers....he's above average now.

    They talk about his shot even though his percentages are better than hardens.
    They talk aout his TOs even though harden had 17 in 2 games down the stretch

    It's stupid....Lin is an above average pg with a big upside.

    He contributed and the rockets went to the playoffs. Morey said thatlin was a huge part of that. Of course I know everyone here knows more....
     
  2. coffeelover665

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    everyone here knows that Lin will be good and improve. It the fans vs fans. yall need to chill, drink a beer, and smoke some weed.

    remember when PPat can't get a rebound to save his life?

    remember when Harden was a major liability on team defense?

    Remember when Parson jacked up missed 3's over and over again?

    Everyone needs to work on their game, and its our job to root for them, they are all children, and we must love them equally, cheer them on when they succeed, and so concern when they suffer.

    Unnecessary hate just does nothing but sew more hate.

    plus it gives diabetes
     
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  3. TJ VS TR

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    ..+1..
     
  4. SuperStar

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    So you pretty much agree with me but the haters/critics make you not want to?
     
  5. zdrav

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    Yes, I think it would've been best for Lin had he not played. He was clearly hampered by a debilitating injury and wasn't nearly able to play at his best. There's no real point in playing if you can't make meaningful contributions. That being said, I still think the Rockets would've lost.

    I'm just also pointing out that had he sat out, many of the people who now criticize him for playing would've criticized him for NOT playing.
     
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  6. 34to11

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    Okay, but that doesn't explain game 1, Lin's healthiest game, most minutes, and the Rockets worst loss of the series.
    I think he was in for a rough series regardless and the injury provides a convenient (if not completely accurate) out for his loyalist.

    Even with that I think the entire situation will prove beneficial for the Rockets in the long run because the resultant motivation (Lin), competition (Beverley), and experience (all) can only help the team.
     
  7. YoungGods

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    Everyone played badly in the first game including Parsons and Harden, the only one showed up was Beverley.
     
  8. zdrav

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    Right, because young players ALWAYS play down to the level of their first playoff game against the 2nd best team in the league and never improve.

    Using that one game to diagnose Lin's career would be akin to me using Lin's 38-point outburst against the Spurs to argue that he should be the team's #1 option and not Harden.
     
  9. 34to11

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    Okay, but how does that address what I said?


    Is that what I did? "Diagnose" Lin's career?
    Or did I simply point out the flaw in the injury argument?
     
  10. Razsan

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    I fairness, Harden was 6-19 from the field but managed to come back and have some good minutes in the series. Lin actually started off decently in the 2nd game before getting hurt.
    Let me ask a question of you.
    How do you explain the gushing love that Beverly gets for starting and yet he only manages 11.8 points and 2.8 assists a game? If Lin did that he'd be called a bust.
    I do agree with your last paragraph though...next season will show what Jeremy is made of.
     
  11. cw3k

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    Harden is the #1 option, there is no doubt about that. The problem is Harden hold the ball for too long, ISO too much, and too many attempts to draw foul instead of trying to score. Most of us want Lin to control the ball not because we are Lin only fan, because it is better for the team. If Lin direct the offense, then both Lin and Harden can pick their shoots. I would prefer Harden go 10 of 13, 6 FT for 30 points instead of 3 of 20, 22 FT for 30 points.

    If you do the math, that extra 7 miss Harden missed can be taken by another player. If the other play can just make 1 of 7, that's 2 points. If 3 of 7, that's 6 to 9 points. 6 to 9 will win game.
     
  12. 34to11

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    It has everything to do with their contracts, roles, and expectations.
    You tend to expect more of a 3rd year player who is your starter after signing a lucrative contract than a free agent rookie back-up making the minimum.
    So when the back-up outplays the starter he is going to be applauded.

    Plus there is the undeniable fact that the team performed exponentially better when Beverley was inserted into the starting line-up.
    Better team performance tends to garner a certain amount of "gushing."

    His outstanding rebounding and hard-nosed defense may have had something to do with it too.
     
  13. slestack11

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    How can you blame Jeremy Lin when the offense was for everyone to get out of the way and have Harden go ISO? Should Jeremy Lin have run over and grabbed the ball away from ball hog Harden?
     
  14. Razsan

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    Let's dis-spell a few things. First, while a "rookie" Beverly has TONS more actual pro basketball starting experience than Jeremy. Exponentially better? The team lost 4 of 6 and to use the first game as an example. Lin was minus 23 and Beverly was minus 18, hardly stud like...And I refer back to the final stats.... 11.8 and 2.9 assists. Just because he runs around and he "looks' like he's playing better doesn't mean he actually did. Was he better than the fisrt game Lin and an injured Lin...sure. Was he better than an average Lin? Nope.
     
  15. cw3k

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    Jesus, blame Lin for game 1 lost is like saying the Rockets can beat the healthy OKC. Yea, right....

    Everyone talk about Lin is garbage because Westbrook abused him, Westbrook abused every guard in the league. He even abused CP3, the supposedly best guard in the league. The 3 games OKC played against LAC durng regular season, Westbrooke average 28.6 ppg and 8 assists.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/russell_westbrook/game_by_game_stats.html
     

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