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Jeremy Lin Appreciation Thread, Rockets 2012-13 Season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Second_Cousin, May 18, 2013.

  1. Fair Dinkum

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    as i was saying b4


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  2. hltiki

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    if you don't appreciate lin, then dont post here =/


    just sayin...
     
  3. iJHolmes

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    so 23/82 games he had that were according to you "memorable".

    So the other 59 games of mediocracy/below average games we should just forget about.

    makes sense.
     
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  4. Morlock O

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    I also agree, problem is the other 14 pgs are either untouchables(superstars or rookie contracts) or on bad contracts or totally not a good fit... there are only 1-2 pgs out of the 14 that are better pgs with upside, but the problem is trading for them is very very difficult and might not be worth the effort considering the minimal impact they will have in the team overall success...
     
  5. Fair Dinkum

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    Just because something is good doesn't what's leftover bad.

    Does that make sense.
     
  6. gnozahs

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    The guy got injured on a hustle play. It's not like he injured himself foolishly. I want to see you run full speed into a guy and have someone call you a wussy when you're clearly injured. Kick rocks and get out of town.
     
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    He actually only posted his best games in which he played an all star or near all star level. But there were also many games where he had like 12 and 8 or 14 and 7 which is pretty solid and which resulted in wins. There was also games he was playing very well but played limited minutes because we were blowing opponents off. I rmr in that Jazz game where we won by 45 he only played like 20-25 min but had 12 and 7 on 5/5 shooting. Also could've had better stats in the Phoenix and Mavs blowouts. So he did have some solid yet unspectacular performances as well. Though on the flip side he did have a lot of single digit scoring games... inconsistency is his biggest problem and I am sure that will ease down next year
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Stopped reading here. There lies the problem.
     
  9. Fair Dinkum

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    Don't understand. What do you mean?
     
  10. jackycool

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    Too bad this will become another thread with two sides flaming at each other.

    In any case, nice thread OP, we could take some time to see the brighter spots of our polarizing starting PG.
     
  11. TJ VS TR

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    According the Morey, Lin was the 3rd most important player on a playoff team in terms of wins. This team wasn't in the playoffs last year and he is a first year starter, keep linning baby.
     
  12. manning

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    Why should you care whether other people are like Lin or not? :confused:
    Stop it...You are the reason why this thread still alive.You have your opinion, they have theirs...Don't care what they say if you disagree.
     
  13. TJ VS TR

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    You've gotta understand, I'm posting because I'm posting, that's it.
    I don't see anything wrong with this thread besides a bit of trolLin'. ;)
     
  14. Roxlove

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    That would make a good signature!
     
  15. Fair Dinkum

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    This makes a better signature.
     
  16. Roxlove

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    I can't believe this article I just saw. It is making so mad I can't think properly.
    How can they type garbage like this???:mad:
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-lamont-hill/linsanity-jeremy-lin_b_2199606.html
    "Last year, the entire world was captivated by NBA point guard Jeremy Lin. After being cut by two NBA teams and sent to the Developmental League three times, Lin was signed off the street by the New York Knicks. After months of barely playing, Lin was dropped into the starting lineup and proceeded to run off a streak of amazing performances that placed him on the same list as Hall of Famers like Allen Iverson and Shaquille O'Neal. Literally overnight, "Linsanity" become a worldwide phenomenon that confounded experts, captivated the media, and inspired the world.

    This season, despite ditching New York for Houston, Lin remains a big deal to fans, media, and marketeers. From his all-star votes to his jersey sales to his high number of nationally televised games, Jeremy Lin continues to receive superstar-level attention.

    There's only one problem: Jeremy Lin can't play.

    To be clear, I'm not saying that Jeremy Lin isn't an NBA level player. Even before Linsanity took hold, Lin proved that he deserves to be in the league. Furthermore, no one puts up the record-setting numbers that Lin did over those 14 games last year and doesn't have a place in the league.

    The question, however, is what that place is.

    Yes, Jeremy Lin is better than the undrafted journeyman that we understood him to be a year ago. But he's nowhere near the player that the Houston Rockets thought they were signing when they gave him what Carmelo Anthony properly called a "ridiculous" three-year $25 million contract. Lin definitely belongs on an NBA team, but he should be nowhere near anyone's starting lineup.

    Why do I say this? Well... because I've actually watched him play.

    Hype aside, Jeremy Lin has many glaring flaws in his game. While he excels when he's beating defenders to the basket, Lin can only get dribble penetration when going to his right. When forced to put the ball in his left hand, Lin typically makes a few perfunctory dribbles before passing the ball or, worse, committing a turnover.

    Oh yeah, about those turnovers.

    Since playing regular minutes, Jeremy Lin has been a virtual turnover machine. Even during his peak level of play last year, Lin turned the ball over in historically unprecedented fashion. (And in case you think I'm being hyperbolic, check out this stat: Lin's 45 turnovers over his first 7 starts are the most of any player in the history of the NBA since the stat was recorded) This season, Lin has managed to give the ball away less, but still averages an alarming 4.1 turnovers per 48 minutes. While it's tempting to attribute to the slight improvement to Lin's maturation as a player, it's more likely that he simply handles the ball less now that he's playing next to superior playmaker James Harden.

    Lin has also proven that he is a below-average shooter. This season, Lin is shooting a dismal 35% from the field, which is the lowest average in the entire league for a starting guard. From three-point range, Lin is shooting a disastrous 24%. On shots beyond 9 feet, which account for nearly 50% of his total shots taken, Lin is shooting a shameful 26%. Lin's offensive effectiveness is further hampered by his inability to move left. To date, Lin has only taken 17 shots from the left side of the court, connecting on only 29% of them.

    Making things worse, Jeremy Lin is a dreadful defender. He has terrible footwork, struggles to stay in front of quick ball handlers, and can't cut left (notice a pattern here?). Other than cheating the passing lanes, which explains his misleading 1.8 steals per game, Lin is little more than a human turnstile for the league's point guards.

    So... Let's recap. In comparison to his peers, Jeremy Lin can't dribble, shoot, make plays, or guard anyone. His stat line (10.2 points, 6.1 assists, 4.6 rebounds on 35% shooting) accurately reflect what he is: a slightly below-average NBA point guard who, if he works extremely hard and squeezes out every drop of his ability, will become nothing more than a slightly above-average point guard.

    At this point, you may be asking, "If he's so bad, how do you explain last year?" Great question.

    First, there's plain old dumb luck. Lin was saved from the Knicks cutting block because coach Mike D'Antoni was desperate to save an unexpectedly bad season. Luck. He got a chance to thrive because of Carmelo Anthony's injury and the tragic death of Amar'e Stoudemire's brother. Luck. Once he was in a position to thrive, Lin played better than he did at any moment of his life. Luck. Of course, Lin shouldn't be criticized for making the most of his lucky circumstances. But he also couldn't be expected to be lucky for ever.

    More important, for much of Lin's white-hot streak, opposing teams weren't guarding him. From the lack of on-the-ball pressure to the endless steak of wide open shots, opposing teams were focusing on the Knicks other offensive threats and essentially daring Lin to beat them. Of course, Lin still had to make the shots, but there are few NBA guards who couldn't average 20-plus points if they were fed a steady diet of 10-15 wide open Js.

    This unusual level of openness is largely due to the fact that many teams and players simply didn't take Lin seriously. Even when he was promoted to the Knicks' starting spot, teams weren't exactly poring through game film and scouting reports to figure out how to stop an undrafted benchwarmer from Harvard. Instead, they assumed that Lin's performances were statistical aberrations and his play would eventually return to Earth.

    Then there's the thorny issue of race. As many players have privately told me, it was difficult to accept that an Asian player under seven feet could dominate an NBA game. As a result, they simply let him play with little resistance, allowing him to temporarily thrive on the "soft bigotry of low expectations."

    It wasn't until Lin's humiliating outing against the Miami Heat last February that he began to be treated as an actual peer. The Heat decided to defend Lin, guarding him closely the whole game and exposing his many flaws. Other teams began to watch game footage of Lin, studying his weaknesses and designing defenses to counter them. Needless to say, Linsanity died a quick death.

    In all honesty, I'm sad that Linsanity turned out to be a sham. Like many people, I wanted to buy into the idea of a Cinderella hoops story. I wanted to believe that everyone -- the coaches, the scouts, the executives, and even the cold hard statistics-- were wrong. I wanted Jeremy Lin to be next big thing.

    But the truth is the truth.

    And in this case, the truth is that Jeremy Lin can't play. At least not at the highest levels. And no amount of "Linsanity" can change that."
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  17. coachbadlee

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    Hey:eek:! You were asking me? Sorry. What i meant was we never knew when Jeremy was going to play well.
     
  18. kumakun

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    I don't know how you guys justify a "all-star" but Lin was right behind CP3 in votes this year so if getting into the All-Star game is by definition what an All-Star is then Lin WILL be an all-star if not in your eyes but in many other peoples eyes. I think he played poorly this year because his shooting wasn't great at times but he played spectacular and facilitated great at times as well. Since he came off injury he didn't practice most of the summer, since he's a Harvard grad I think he's smart enough to know what to work on to go to the next level.
     
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    To be fair, this is the beginning of the season when everyone was calling him garbage...and he was definitely playing like so.
     
  20. TJ VS TR

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    LMAO at
    Shame on Columbia University and Huff. SMH


    Why post it in this thread? IMO it belongs better to:
    R.I.P Linsanity
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=229718


    No need to get so mad, remember: "I will always have haters."
     

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