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Under what circumstances would you be willing to trade Chandler Parsons?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, May 14, 2013.

  1. HamJam

    HamJam Member

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    What makes you think he has particularly limited potential?

    Look how much his shot improved from season 1 to 2. He is athletic enough to defend the best perimeter player of the other team and at the same time has the size to be one of the most efficient small ball 4s in the NBA.

    He is the best two way player on the team, and has shown every indication that he has the raw skills, athleticism and work ethic to improve.

    So, leaving aside the fact that he is an unheralded white 2nd round pick, what about the actual on court production and development he has shown makes you think he can't get a lot better? A lot of people in the national media seem to disagree with you by the way.
     
  2. TriCkz

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    I would cry if we traded Chandler. No homo
     
  3. Asian Sensation

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    Sell high. He's the perfect asset to net us something really big.

    When he gets paid which he will... he's not going to be as appreciated as he is right now. The reason why he has a cult like following on this board is of course he's a good young player and his good looks of course but he's dirt cheap right now so it's easy to appreciate him.

    Right now he has incredible value (perhaps the best in the league) as we're basically paying about 10 cents on the dollar. I personally think he's going to get right around 10M per year when the time comes. For that much money I think we can find better overall value.
     
  4. Asian Sensation

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    How is Batum a bad contract??? Parsons and Batum are very similar players outside of ClutchFans where Parsons is apparently on Lebron and Durant's level LOL.

    As a matter of fact Parsons will end up getting a contract very similar to Batum (around 11 million/year) and I'd probably take Batum over Parsons. Although Parsons has higher value after his playoff run and Batum was injured/played hurt the majority of this year.
     
  5. bluffkin

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    Straight up only for

    Durant
    Lebron
    George
     
  6. HamJam

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    Sell high for what though and as part of what overall strategy? I mean, there are plenty of people I would trade Parsons for, but they are such that I don't think the other team would reciprocate. Who could you actually trade him for to where it would make the team better and which would make sense from a salary cap perspective. By this I mean, sure, if you could get a top tier player, you do it and don't care about the cap impact -- but the types of players you could actually get for Parsons are people who are not top tier, but would tie up our cap space so as to prevent us from adding an actual top tier player. If we did trade Parsons for such a player, then, from a basketball perspective, we would be in the same boat -- but from a salary cap perspective, we would be in a much worse spot.

    So, sure, Parsons is going to get a big contract in a couple years. In the meantime we can use the salary cap space to pursue an elite player to add to the roster. Then, after two years, the team can decide if Parsons is worth giving an 8 figure deal and is suited for being the third best player on a championship level team. And by then, with the way he has developed, he might be.

    Trading him now because he might get a large deal in 2 years is almost as dumb as OKC trading Harden to the Rockets this season.
     
  7. Asian Sensation

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    Sign and trade. For a Superstar/All-Star (Howard/Paul) as an overall strategy to improve the team. I'm sure the LA's would rather get something back than nothing at all. Or you could include him in a trade for a disgruntled/unstable All-star in their current situation. (Love/LMA/Cousins) come to mind.
     
  8. hlcc

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    there are plenty of players that i'm willing to trade parsons for. his biggest value and plus currently is his cheap contract.
     
  9. nalgas05

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    would yall consider iggy for parsons?
     
  10. cbk41

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    A long and tall small forward for can guard multiple positions well, shoot the long ball, has mid-range, can play well both off and on the ball, and can run the PnR is a hot commodity in any market. When you add his youth, upside, and contract in the picture it gets even better.

    He may not ever be a star player, but I think he's one of those guys you'd only want a star player in return for.
     
  11. sugrlndkid

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    iggy's on the free market...
     
  12. xiki

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    Yes. And I am intrigued with that as a possibility, albeit slight.
     
  13. HamJam

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    Free agency no longer works like that. A sign and trade does not allow the Rockets the ability to offer a max player any more than they already can by signing them outright --so there is no reason to do a sign and trade.

    I'm all for a trade for an all star -- but Cousins is not that yet, and, with his issues, Parsons may be better than Cousins a couple years from now, and probably at a lesser contract.

    Love and Aldridge are players I myself would consider for Parsons -- but it is not so clear cut. We might be able to get Love and keep Parsons by the time Parsons is up for his big contract, and there is no reason to trade him unnecessarily just to transfer the gaping hole at the 4 to a gaping hole at the 3. Plus we may be able to get a PF in FA who is comparable to what the injury plagued Love will provide -- and without losing any of the current rotation.

    I really like Aldridge, but much of what I said on Love extends to him as well. Plus, honestly, given their roster, I don't think Portland would do that deal. And, even if they would, I'd rather have Parsons, a hole at the 4 and cap space to sign a max player rather than Aldridge, a hole at the 3 and almost no cap space.
     
  14. bullardfan

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    No trade except for Lebron or KD.

    Melo is a better scorer but he brings negative intangibles and doesn't play defense.
     
  15. RickyNewport

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    Parsons would be stupid as hell if he does some dumb 5h!t like that, especially if he can play his way into being a top 10 small forward... If he can do that with the fact he's an American born clean cut white boy in a "Thug League" (even though all the criminals are in the NFL) and he's a panty dropper _ that dude will get paid $$$$$$$$
     
  16. Fighton

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    it depends on what he wants. if he wants to set his market value, then yeah he'll need to explore restricted free agency but there are inherent risks in that. you let the market determine what you're worth. you're worth as much as what another team wants to pay. but if he wants to remain in houston, then he will need to agree to a contract with morey before another team makes an offer.

    Even though your existing team has the right to match any offer you get, it needs to be an actual signed offer from another team to match. if your team decides not to match the signed offer, you don't have a choice but to go to the other team - that's what happened to jeremy.

    and no, you can't take a number from another team and go to morey and say what do you think, are you going to match? if someone really wants him, i'm afraid we may see a similar scenario to jeremy where the other team puts in a poison pill that makes it hard for les to match. i would imagine that by that time we'd already have 2 max players on the roster, and wouldn't be able to stay under the cap with a poison pill contract.

    gonna be a tough call regardless...
     
  17. Aleron

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    Cpl things, he only becomes a rfa if we waive his 4th year (if he plays through the 4th year, he's an ufa), doing so would undoubtedly be a show of faith, yes he could screw us, but in that situation it's generally unlikely, especially if he's trying to capitalise on that clean cut image (doing a carlos boozer is not the best way to promote that).

    Secondly, afaik, the poison pill that Morey used can only be used after 1st and 2nd years, since it would be his 3rd he can't be poison pilled (e.g. Pekovic can't be poison pilled this year), maybe I've misunderstood, but I believe the raise can only happen after the 2nd year, and that can't be after your 4th year.
     
  18. Phillyrocket

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    What we should do is just hold onto Parsons and make the FA acquisitions around him and Harden. Once a Howard or Paul is in place we can go over the cap to resign Parsons. In the meantime would I trade him sure here's a thought lets say Howard is signed this summer. Is a Asik, Parsons, and one of the young PFs worth Love or LMA? Would the Wolves or Blazers think that a worthy package?

    Harden, Howard, Love as your big 3 isn't that what this board wants? Is it not worth a couple of former second rounders that Morey could probably find again?
     
  19. pnr

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    Parsons is going to accept the biggest contract he is offered. He made pennies and will be 26 when he is up for his first big contract. I don't think he will hesitate to leave because he is so underpaid now and will want the most he can get.
     
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    Batum Harrison barns or paul george
     

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