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So now the GOP wants to eliminate overtime pay.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Raven, May 13, 2013.

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  1. Raven

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/x7iMAMj59CQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Elizabeth Warren 2016.
     
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    Are you campaigning for Warren? Really?
     
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    What if I were willing to work more hours but my employer can't afford it because they are forced to pay overtime rates?
     
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    Oh, forgot about that. Here's the summary of the bill as done by the Congressional Research Service.

    CRS summaries are pretty reliable, so I'm not quite sure what the video is talking about here.
     
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    If they want to give 1.5 hours of paid vacation time for 1 hour of overtime. I think that should be fine.
     
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    I still don't like it.
     
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    Basically the bill allows for employers to offer their employees the option of taking 1.5 hours of paid time off for every 1 hour of OT they work, or they can take the regular OT pay (which is time-and-a-half for many people). There are times when I'd take the OT pay and times when I'd take the comp time. I see it as a plus for the employee and the employer. Heck, I used to get comp time and I loved it - wish I still had the option.

    However, the bill is a waste of time as the companies that want this already do this..at least in Texas. Is it illegal in other states to offer this option?
     
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    If it is just an extra option as you describe it, I do not see anything wrong with this at all.
     
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    Employees will be strong armed into accepting it or threatened with termination.
     
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    I've had two employers allow it, though I do think technically it isn't supposed to work that way (in GA). As you are describing it, I have no idea why somebody would be against it.
     
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    Except what is really the benefit of forcing an employee to do this? Most of these hourly folks are in positions that you probably need someone to work while they are out (a la say a cashier at a store or a mechanic), so the company still has to pay out the $.
     
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    They'll force employees into choosing pto time, then pressure them into never using it. Ask anybody at Deloitte how much t
     
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    They'll force employees into choosing pto time, then pressure them into never using it. Ask anybody at Deloitte how much time off they've been able to take in the past 5 years, even though they probably have hundreds saved up - and that's just salaried employees. An hourly worker living paycheck to paycheck with a spouse and three kids to support doesn't stand a chance.

    This bill is the candy house in the woods, and you fools are Hansel and Grettle. Corporate lobbyists and the GOP are the witch, to round the analogy out.
     
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    This sounds Accurate
    When you grant companies this power . . . they will abuse it.

    Rocket River
     
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    This. I don't trust any company to not abuse this - especially since the onus to "force" payment at the end of the year will fall on the employee...who would then face obvious career issues.

    Just pay me the overtime.
     
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    Cleverly disguised destroy the 8 hour work day and 40 hour work week law.
     
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    I'd vote against it as a Congressman, but not for the reasons most of the bleeding hearts are espousing in this thread.
     

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