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GSW backcourt vs. HOU backcourt

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheRealist137, May 12, 2013.

  1. LBJ-Tmac

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    Klay is so much better then Lin its not even funny.

    Unless Lin improves his outside shot his not going to be part of a championship team as a starting point guard with his style of play.

    Don't even get started on the defensive versatility of Klay.
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    Lin needs to shoot better and stop being so damn predictable. Its either an early pass off, or a drive with that pivot crap he does trying to pass it back.
     
  3. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    He may be a moron, but you sound like an *******.
     
  4. danoman

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    I think the warriors win that one. Lin is expendable and easily replaced.
     
  5. Ekiu

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    Nice numbers, what are they for the playoffs?
     
  6. GeneValgene

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    head to head this year

    Lin Curry
    Wins 2 1
    Ppg 21 21
    Asts 7.7 8.0
    TO's 1.3 2.0
    +/- +26 -8
    fg% 51% 47%
    3p/3pa 8/15 8/21

    so with that said, i'd take harden over curry. lin is too much of a wild card right now to decide. look at the stats above. outplayed curry in the regular season - yet other times he looks like a d-league scrub.
     
  7. kmav23

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    no point comparing individual players...

    as a combination... i think HArden Lin has more upside...
     
  8. 2016Champions

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    Harden vs Curry:

    Harden was voted 8th in MVP votes, but Curry has blown everyone's socks off in the playoffs. I understand that the playoffs is a small sample compared to 82 games, but I'm going to give Curry extra credit for performing better than Harden on a bigger stage. Curry is such an exciting player that some people might even go overboard with he extra credit, but I think that's ridiculous otherwise we might as well say Nate Robinson is better than Harden too. Curry is an amazing player, but so is Harden, and I think the better player is something that remains to be seen--lets call it a wash for now and that's more than fair imo.

    Klay vs Lin:

    Jeremy Lin came off knee surgery and had a horrible start to the season. I don't think it's fair to judge Lin's play when he's injured, so I'm going to show guys the numbers he put up after he fully recovered:

    Post All-Star break per 36:
    17.2 ppg
    6.8 ast
    45% fg
    37.5% 3pt

    To be more than fair, here are Klay's post All-Star numbers averaging 37.1 minutes per game:

    16.9 ppg
    2.4 asts
    43% fg
    42% 3pt

    And if I may make an observation, I think Lin puts more pressure on defenses with his ability to penetrate and make great passes. Klay is a great shooter, and an above average defender, but he doesn't have you much else besides those two things. Personally, I think Lin is the better player but I understand if people think we need another season to evaluate Lin some more.

    Conclusion:
    They have the better shooters, but we have better versatility. If you like shooters you can choose their duo, but I like our duo better.
     
  9. nebula955

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    Lol @ random people who never watched GS before the playoffs thinking Thompson is as good as Harden and insulting people who actually know what they're talking about.

    and...

    I think there was some rumor that GS could have traded Klay in a deal for Harden at the start of the season.
     
  10. BEAT LA

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    Harden is 23 and Lin is 24. You posted that specific stat to make them sound older. Focus on the fact that harden is 23 and curry is 25. Who cares about lin. They have the better backcourt unless lin improves drastically next year.
     
  11. DonatasFanboy

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    not a disagreement on your Curry vs. Harden assessment, i also think it's more or less a wash. I'd take Curry for a game but when you account for age and health risks, it's an edge to Harden.

    but just a sidenote: Curry's numbers in the playoffs are essentially identical to his regular season numbers. He's been awesome all year and it's ridiculous that he didn't even make the all star game. (then again, Marc Gasol didn't make it either, selections were a joke this year)
    The big difference is a healthy Bogut.
     
  12. Spiegel

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    This. Harden when he is playing at his best is better then curry and Lin and Thompson cancel eachother out. Lin has the potential to be better then Thompson. The Warriors backcourt has a much better cohesive feel about it.
     
  13. Spiegel

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    Lin is not on Curry's level period
     
  14. Aleron

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    Our backcourt is more scorers, theirs is more shooters, it kind of depends what you want from your team.

    Their frontcourt talent and bench >>>> than ours though.
     
  15. torocan

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    They're pretty hard to compare.

    Curry is a top line PG, but his injury history is worrisome.

    Klay Thompson has a great shot, but he's unable to create effectively on his own. Take Curry off the floor and Thompson gets shut down. Whereas you could argue that Lin and Harden can play well when on the floor by themselves.

    Curry is probably one of the top jump shooters in the NBA. Harden however has the ability to create off the dribble which allows him to severely distort the defense. One on one Harden is unguardable while Curry needs plays more to create space to operate.

    And then there's defense... Thompson/Lin are similar in defensive skill. Harden and Curry are both sub-par defenders.

    That said, defense is more important at the Point Guard position vs the 2 guard as the Point Guards in the NBA are often serious threats due to the depth of the position, whereas a lot of 2 guards are beneficiaries of passes/drop offs.

    I'd have to give the edge to Harden/Lin due to the versatility in terms of offense and the better defensive situation. I'd much rather have the better defender at the PG position than the 2. There's just too many PG's that will completely torch a team if the PG doesn't offer at least token resistance.

    Interestingly, I don't think I'd ever want to see a Harden/Curry back court. That would be a defensive nightmare...
     
  16. Aleron

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    Bit like the Lakers? ;)
     
  17. tomato123

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    LOH thread.
     
  18. howo13579

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    The problem is that we have shooters but doesn't have any offensively competent bigs. Right now I'd take Curry over Harden. Curry's not as athletic but a very consistent shooter and a much better decision maker playing PG especially in crunch time.

    Lin sucked at playing off ball. It's frustrating to see him not moving to open spots while Harden handling the ball. Again this is a team problem. You expect your PG at the moment can see you and get you the ball at timely matter. When Harden does pass, most time the defender already zooms in front of the recipient. However I'd still take Lin over Thompson. Heck I'd take Beverley over him. Thompson is really good at moving off the ball but it's direct benefit from Curry or Jack's trust. I'd take Jack over Lin though.
     
  19. rokit

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    what is his style of play?
     
  20. Aleron

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    I'm trying to figure out why you think curry is a better decision maker at crunch time, not only does Jack handle it most of the time, but Curry's choke jobs have been epic.

    He might be the best shooter ever, his 3rd quarters have been superhuman, but he's pretty damn useless at crunch time.
     

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