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Is Jeremy Lin your Point Guard of the Future?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SF3isBack!!, Apr 28, 2013.

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How many of you are comfortable with Jeremy Lin as our starting point guard?

  1. Comfortable

    58.6%
  2. Uncomfortable

    41.4%
  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    http://www.82games.com/1213/12HOU4.HTM

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    On average the opposing pg outplays him by 2 per points. He seems to do better when he is playing SG.
     
  2. TheLastPope

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    they score .5 more points and take more shots to get half a point more :eek:
     
  3. Karolik

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    If his opponent is averaging the same as him, it just means his defense is average. Not "Very good" as some LOFs claim or "Terrible" but just average.
     
  4. dkim1984

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    JLin haters don't know what they're asking for when demanding trades

    we are a PnR team b/c we value the high percentage shot. PnR is one of the most effective ways of creating those rim shots, and Jeremy runs it well

    CP3 would be awesome too, but he comes at a HUGE price. CP3 is great at creating his own shot, but we have the role players to make up for JLin's lack of shot...or at least pretty inconsistent shot. So spending max money (or close to) for something we can get out of our current roster is a waste of money.

    So global influx of cash, a roster that already can shoot lights out, a cheaper incumbent, and we'd have more cap flexibility to shore up our role players, including a better chance at keeping Parsons (who has great chem with JLin and Harden - and probably Dwight with kick out 3's) when his contact is up is worth giving up for CP3?

    unless you give me a morey in-depth stats analysis to convince me, then CP3 is a WASTE...altho a sexy pickup no doubt
     
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  5. RocketFever

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    This is because PER is a flawed stats...it has many critics, including me...it way overvalues inefficient volume shooting, and overvalues rebounds. Also, it doesn't take defense into account past steals/blocks. Apparently, if you scored 50 points a game on around 35% FG shooting, you'd have the highest PER in the league.
     
  6. Lateralus

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    Not a waste. But not obtainable
     
  7. TJ VS TR

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    Sounds like another case of over-generalization. Who is saying Lin is perfect? Why don't you have some hamburger and drink some Coca-Cola? That's really stupid I'm sorry.

    Well, in light of "the Hate" it is quite understandable that people are over-sensitive about the irrational and morbid hate that has infested this website. It is best to use more grounded and objective criticism if you don't want to remind people of one of the worst onslaught of hate ever seen on the internet.
     
  8. TJ VS TR

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    ..+1..
     
  9. TC777JLIN168

    TC777JLIN168 Member

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    ^^^THIS^^^
     
  10. kianainhi

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    Definitely. I noticed in Jeremy and Dwight interviews, both mentioned they like to have fun on the court. I believe when everything clicks for them on court, the fun begins. That feeling is contagious and spreads to the other players, the bench, the fans at TC and fans watching the games. Aaaaw, just imagine the possibilities. On the other hand, I love Omer and if DM can keep both, I'm for it.
     
  11. glacier921

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    This video reminds of why we were good in midseason, but for some strange reason, we went back to ISO harden the last 10 games of the season. We beat the Kings, of course that ought to have beaten them, and we beat the Suns on a goal tend play. The rest, we lost, we even lost to the Suns in a later game. The question is why? Sure we let the other team score like 101 ppg, but we avg 106 ppg we win the game. And the difference is a lot more because the 106 ppg factors in those terrible games where we implement ISO harden. We tried to ISO harden in the first game of the OKC series. I have no idea why Mchale wants to go back to this. During the regular season when we came back against OKC down 14 points with 6 minutes left, we ran the above videos plays. Sometimes conventionality just doesn't work, and by conventionality, I mean ISO, bring the ball up, bump and grind offense, kind of like Z-bo. That's not us. When we try it, we have a hard time beating the Bobcats.
     
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  12. TJ VS TR

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    I think maybe McHale's run run run takes a toll on this team after an entire season. I'm all for running, but too much is dangerous.
     
  13. glacier921

    glacier921 Rookie

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    The 80s Lakers didn't have a problem with it during showtime. If anything, ISO harden causes more injury to Harden. Going up against 2-3 and getting hacked all the time. If anything, running may make you out of breath, but at least you don't get hammered as much.
     
  14. TJ VS TR

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    I dunno, maybe the Lakers didn't run as much, maybe the young Rockets will get used to it next season.

    I wasn't talking about injury. Maybe they just didn't like running around so much. ISOing might not be a conscious move, when a team is tired, ISOing seems a easy way out.
     
  15. zdrav

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    So... Are box scores useful or not? Because in your previous post, you used the figure "25-10" to try to discredit Lin's defense. But now, you're stating that box scores are misleading?

    Essentially, what you're getting at is that stats are no good unless they support your argument that Lin sucks. That's the very definition of extreme bias.
     
  16. Lateralus

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    Don't get too salty there. I don't think he sucks, he just is limited vastly by his skill set. Believe the 25/10 if you want :cool: Most here who aren't gullible won't even question that rofl.
     
  17. CP30

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    I don't think Lin is great by any means but I do think he gets more flack than he deserves.

    For the first half of the season he was fairly shaky but you have to understand that it was not only his first year starting full time but he was also trying to get comfortable with a new team.

    If you look at his last 35 games he actually averaged out 15 points a game.

    He's certainly not as great as some might have hoped for but he's solid and will likely only get better.
     
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  18. zdrav

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    The thing is that many people doubted he'd even replicate his Woodson stats (somewhere around 13-15 PPG and 5-7 APG). Now that Lin's actually averaged that for an entire 82-game season, the committed haters need to move the goalposts, which is why so many of them seemed ecstatic that Lin had that bad first game against OKC. Now, the big knock against Lin wasn't that he was starter material, but that he wasn't playoff starter material. Never mind the fact that he'd just spent a whole season improving on his weakest areas (3pt shooting, TOs).
     
  19. nolimitnp

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    Essentially this was his rookie season. He was absolutely horrid the first month of the season. For most of the season he was inconsistent, but actually played very well in April. I'm holding judgment on defense until the whole team plays in the half court. No he's not a good individual defender against most other PGs, but he's obviously good at anticipating passing lanes. I don't care how many jumpers he missed (Tony Parker couldn't shoot at first), he still shot a quality 44% overall and improved his 3 to 34% after missing almost everything for a month and a half. Ball handling could improve. Too often he'd get trapped. But how many assists did he miss or TOs did he get because of Omer missing? We also played nearly all season without a reason to double team anyone in the post. No easy alley-oop assists to say a Dwight or Josh. You can't measure his mental makeup quite yet. He went undrafted, bounces around a bit, then injuries put him on center stage in the most influential city in the world and, well, Linsanity happens. Not a few games, 25. Now he's suddenly the new Yao Ming with a $24 million contract at age 23 with only 25 games started. Could you handle that pressure at that age?
     
  20. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    It's not "understandable". And it's ironic how you are waging such a war against it, complaining that haters are turning it into a war. Just look at the language you used in your post. "Infested". "Onslaught". What is this, Starcraft?

    You cherry picked this. His opponents have more rebounds, less turnovers, and more assists. And less fouls, too. Discussing Lin is just an exercise in seeing what we want to see..
     
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