Good thread, I would drop Royce white. Jeremy has value and potential with a modest contract that be traded if needed.
What happened in April? You keep doing this...you do you realize that EVERY NBA player has up's and down's? You keep saying context...but the 'context' of a contract is an ENTIRE NBA season, not just the 2.5 months at 36 minutes that you've cherry picked. Again, I can take any NBA player and try to pick out their best months and make up an excuse for why he was good then and not for the other months...for ALL of them I can do that, but that's not reality and just spewing "context, context, context" is not going to work when you're picking out his best time frame when he started to get into a good shooting rhythm and his healthiest (which players aren't in all season long and he surely hasn't shown capable of it either) and expanding it to a time limit he's most likely NOT going to play...he's getting paid for his full season production...not for playing less, and pretending what his numbers would be if he played longer. You're making him better than what he's actually performed so far and demanding that everyone believe he'll do this all season long next year...that's BS and you're completely blind if you can't see that. He was hurt, yes, but all players get hurt, or get bumps and bruises throughout the season, and recover from injuries or worse and still perform. He's been hurt pretty much every year he's played so far, what makes you think he won't be next year? If you can give us some better stats than things you've simply extrapolated to imaginary levels then it might sound a bit more convincing...right now it's pure cherry picking and I'm not buying it. Again, I'm holding out until next year...I doubt he'll give us 18/7 on 44-45% of actual performance, not some made up what if scenarios by his die hard fans. You can believe in them if you want to, but until he actually does that in a real season and doesn't look like dog crap in the playoffs, I won't think he's worth his contract...until then he's overpaid and producing what Lowry and Dragic could've givin us with less salary and better D. Hell, we wouldn't have to be yanking those 2 at the end of games for defensive purposes.
Lin fans can only cherry pick his stats to justify their ridiculous claims the truth is, Lin has been extremely inconsistent this season, and can either show lots of potential or absolute liability. I'm not sure that's what you want on a team, I would rather pay less money for a consistent pg with not as much potential, than 8 mil to someone who "might" play really well.
what? knock it off. I don't think Lin's contract is expensive based on court performance either and whether he does good or bad, Les is making a killing just by having Lin sit on the bench. But nobody is hating on Lin. It's just unfairly high expectation based on his last season's production when he was making min wage.
I could go through your post point by point and I actually started to type that reply out but then realised how pointless it was... you're a hater and nothing is going to change your mind. You want all star production that less than 4 PGs in the league produced from an 8 million dollar PG, who does not get to be the primarily playmaker and has the lowest usage for a starting PG baring chalmers. You want to completely ignore the context and ignore all other factors that affect a player's performance to actually make a nuanced evaluation that is a fairer and more realistic examination of a player's ability and potential. You aren't interested in even acknowledging the significant improvements made over the course of the season and you deliberately want to use the overall season average in order to pretend that this improvement didn't happen. You are prejudiced against him (like many others here) and a hater and it doesn't matter what he does, unless he plays good enough to be an all star you will always look for an excuse to downplay him. Thankfully, the GM of the Rockets has an intelligent, logical and nuanced approach and has stated that Lin was the 3rd biggest contributor to the team's wins this season (behind Harden and Asik) and that the Rockets' wouldn't have made the playoffs without him. I'm glad he is in charge and not one of the ignorant haters like you who seem utterly clueless and will ignore whatever doesn't suit their hate filled agenda.
P.S. As for what happened in April he averaged 17/7 (not per 36, PER game.) Of course it's a pure coincidence that in April Harden and parsons alternatively took some games off, which gave Lin more freedom and minutes. He averaged 34.7 mintues in April as opposed to 28.1 in March (when he was hitting nearly 50% of all FGs and 40% of 3s).
$8 mil is a fair contract , but were all so spoiled by Moreys bargain deals. also Lin is also going to improve and become a bargain
And unfortunately some fans only have hate googles on for Lin and jump on him whenever he makes mistakes. I've never seen a player scrutinized and put under the microscope like this besides superstars like Lebron, Dwight, Kobe, etc. I guess Lin is a superstar. :grin: in which case his contract is a steal.
Winning is more important than stats. He is an ultimate team player and winner. Definitely not going to have his contract voided. No doubt.
Was this seriously ever in doubt to some people? The OP proposed a complete hypothetical situation that has no basis in what can actually happen in real life. It was all for discussion, nothing more.
True, it's not in doubt. But White's contract IS in doubt in real life and something can actually happen to it.
Royce's contract MIGHT be in doubt, but none of the other options are. So your assurances that Lin or anyone else's contract for that matter won't be voided seems unnecessary. Although the way some defended Lin you would think people actually felt like it could happen, lol.
Well, what I'm saying is, since Lin's contract won't be voided and Royce's might be, it quite obviously shouldn't be much of a contest when one could only vote for one contract to be voided.
But the question wasn't, whose contract can we void? It was if we COULD void ANY contract who would it be. So those who say Lin have that right. Not saying I agree with some of those people's reasons, but there are legitimate reasons out there.
