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Benghazi: the coverup

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. bobmarley

    bobmarley Member

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    Missouri's Rep. Ann Wagner Says Obama Is The Person Who Would Have Given The Stand-Down Order in Benghazi

    (Sound bite on the website)

    In the above quick sound bite from Dana Loesch's radio talk show Rep. Ann Wagner who has served time as an ambassador herself frankly says that the President of The United States is the person with the authority to give a stand-down order like the one that was given to special forces members the night of the attack in Benghazi.

    Read more at http://www.mainwashed.com/2013/05/missouris-rep-ann-wagner-says-obama-is.html#GTuSsWsylz2XeCHf.99

    Also at live leak
     
  2. bobmarley

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    Its not the only source out there, but thank you very much. You truthers need to help us get our story straight.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Why are all of your sources rightwing nutjob websites?

    mainwashed?

    really?
     
  4. fallenphoenix

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    people need to stop watching fox news
     
  5. ROXTXIA

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    Really? Quoting William Kristol?

    How........credible on your part.
     
  6. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    what else have you been told to think?
     
  7. bobmarley

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    From Politco:

    The White House held a "deep background" briefing with reporters on Friday afternoon to discuss recent revelations about the Benghazi investigation, sources familiar with the meeting tell POLITICO.

    The meeting was conducted on "deep background," according to White House spokesman Josh Earnest, but sources told POLITICO that the existence of the meeting was "off the record." The meeting began around 12:45 p.m. and postponed the daily, on-the-record White House press briefing untl mid-afternoon.

    The session was announced to reporters in the wake of an ABC News report showing that White House and State Dept. officials were involved in revising the now-discredited CIA talking points about the attack on Benghazi.

    Emails obtained by ABC News show that State Dept. spokesperson Victoria Nuland requested that the CIA scrub references to an Al Qaeda-linked group, which, Nuland told White House officials, “could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings."

    UPDATE (3:05 p.m.): I asked Earnest to explain the meaning of "deep background," as defined by the White House, for my readers. He emails:

    Deep background means that the info presented by the briefers can be used in reporting but the briefers can't be quoted.
     
  8. bobmarley

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    Don't watch it. BBC apologized today for their coverage of Benghazi, by the way.
     
  9. bobmarley

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    Not the only source again, and also the real source is from the youtube video, which I am not able to post right now.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    So bobmarley... You DO KNOW that the motivation for these hearing by Republicans is political? Its not like you are that naive right? So riddle me this bobmarley. If their motivation is political rather than seeking the truth are you not AT ALL worried that they are going to be using as much selection bias as possible and FORCE an outcome that they find suitable thus questioning their credibility?

    And if YOUR motivation is seeking the truth and not being wrapped around a political blame game about a President you already hated before Benghazi then wouldn't you have some doubt or at least second guess the sources and the story the Republicans are trying to conjure up?
     
  11. bobmarley

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    You do know the reason the State dept scrubbed the talking points memo is political right?

    How about this? You keep playing your Democrats are blameless and Republicans are crazy game.

    We will keep looking into this and find out what really happened and why.
     
  12. mc mark

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    The youtube video is from a rightwing talk radio show. I'm sure it's nothing but a reasoned, well thought out exchange of ideas.
     
  13. bobmarley

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    <script src="http://player.ooyala.com/player.js?embedCode=V4bnRpYjo4hfZQZRANGfQIOoYjfKLUDr&video_pcode=k4Nmw6Cri746xA2OsoSlngyrIudg&deepLinkEmbedCode=V4bnRpYjo4hfZQZRANGfQIOoYjfKLUDr&width=613&height=344"></script>

    Steyn: ‘How empty and dead’ were they to let Chris Stevens die for ‘Obama-Clinton fiction?’ [AUDIO]

    On Hugh Hewitt’s Thursday night program, National Review columnist Mark Steyn explained why the Obama administration’s response to last September’s terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was so appalling.

    They let him die, and then told lies over his coffin,” he told fill-in host Guy Benson.

    Steyn said that the late U.S. ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens was a true believer of President Barack Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s view of the Arab Spring, that it was a positive movement and was trying to make the best of it. Clinton and senior State Department officials, he said, let Stevens die, meaning that he was “sacrificed for the Obama-Clinton fiction of the Arab Spring.

    “All the players involved in this are Democrats,” Steyn said. “Chris Stevens is in fact the poster boy for the Obama-Clinton view of the Arab Spring. He’s one of their guys. I mean, as chaps like me look on it, he was in large part deluded about the nature of the Arab Spring, but he was a personally courageous and brave man who was on the front line of the Obama-Clinton narrative about the Arab Spring.”

    And Democrats, liberals should ask themselves about that — if they are willing to, that’s, no right-wingers, no Republicans, no conservatives are involved in this. They did that to one of their own. And as you say, the three elements of this story all got moved slightly further on in the course of the testimony yesterday. … He was there in Benghazi on a symbolic day at the personal request of Sen. Clinton. In a sense, he not only died for the Obama-Clinton fiction, he was sacrificed for the Obama-Clinton fiction of the Arab Spring.”

    “This is absolutely disgraceful. I cannot conceive of how empty and dead you have to be inside to put Ambassador Stevens through that, then leave him to die, and all the nonsense we heard about, ‘Oh, they couldn’t have got there in time?’ Oh, really? You had, it’s like a football match, is it? It’s like a football game, you’ve got an end time, you know they’re all going to pack up and go home at 5 in the morning or whatever? They didn’t know how long it was going to last. They left him to die. They decided to let their guy die in the confusion of the stuff happening in Egypt and Tunisia over the stupid no-account video.”

    The author of “After America: Get Ready for Armageddon,” continued by pointing out how both Clinton and Obama maintained that they had a personal relationship with Stevens, despite telling a story that was somewhat contradicted by the former number two diplomat in Libya, Gregory Hicks’ testimony before the House oversight committee on Wednesday.

    “I understand there is partisan politics,” Steyn added. “I accept that. You want your side to win. You put your side’s interests at heart. But I personally could not do that knowing the truth. She called him ‘Chris.’ Obama called him ‘Chris.’ ‘Chris’ this — no Ambassador Stevens, no Mr. Ambassador, none of that — ‘Chris, Chris, Chris,’ like he’s — they’re best buddies. They’ve known each other all their life. And then she tells the families of the dead that they’re going to get this video-maker, and they’re going to put him in jail. And all the time she’s doing that, she knows that is false.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/10/steyn-they-let-chris-stevens-die-audio/#ixzz2Sv3VpCfX

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    So disgraceful
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    And you will keep searching for an answer until it ends with a conclusion that Obama purposely let 4 Americans die even if it isn't what happened. I'm neutral on this matter buddy. Don't care for Obama or hate him. You have an agenda as does the Republican party I don't. I'm being more rational you are playing the witch hunt game to force feed a conclusion. You hated Obama before and you want to justify that hate.
     
  15. bobmarley

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    Maybe because no one wants to talk about this on the left.

    She is a former Ambassador herself. She understands how these things work.
     
  16. bobmarley

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    Never hated the guy. In fact I voted for him in 2008. But think what you will. I don't mind saying I was wrong about all of this. In fact I want this to be wrong. But the evidence is beginning to say otherwise.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    If only we could pretend create alternate realities. Lets create an alternate reality where Mitt Romney were voted in as President. Lets be real here. Those 4 men would have died with Romney at the helm also. Now guess how many posts bobmarley would create on the subject of Benghazi on this board? Of course there is no certain why to have a certain number but from reasonable deductive reasoning we can conclude 0.
     
  18. mc mark

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    Or is she a newly elected republican congresswoman trying to make a name for herself? But you're right, she probably does understand how these kind of smears work.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Former ambassadors are capable of an agenda also especially when they are newly elected Republican rep.
     
  20. bobmarley

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    I don't care about Mitt Romney being the president anymore. I have moved on. I don't think those men would have died because the Ambassador would not have been there on 9/11 if Hillary had not personally asked him to.

    Please how you deductively reasoned that??
     

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