Jeez you guys knee-jerk like crazy. Coach Nick was referring specifically to two plays in the third quarter of one game, where Bev played great on-ball defense and got the turnover. He wasn't making some sort of holistic analysis of Beverley's defense. Those types of plays are part of the reason Bev now has his cult status around these parts, but that's not to say that it's flawless or even sustainable long-term (as evidenced by his foul trouble). It also speaks nothing to his ability to play defense within a team system. Magic is now a media personality and just says whatever comes to mind. I seriously doubt the guy studies tape. And come on, just read his comment. He'd keep playing Brooks who is better on offense and Bevlerley who is better on defense? What's he gonna do, call infinite timeouts and keep switching them out whenever the ball changes possession? He fell prey to the exact same thing that everyone else is, where you just see all the crazy energy that Bev provides (particularly on on-ball defense) and it makes you think that he's doing more than he actually is.
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"For Ricky Rubio, Final Four weekend had its ups and downs. Yes, he walks away with a Euroleague championship at age 19, but Ricky played just five minutes in the second half of the final because of his miscues with the ball. Rubio committed 5 turnovers in the game, and lost the ball on the dribble three times in his brief second-half appearances alone, as he struggled to handle the defensive pressure of quick Americans Patrick Beverley (6-1 Arkansas product who was a Heat second-rounder) and Josh Childress. Rubio had a deceptively good stat line in the final, with 9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals in just 17 minutes, but the TOs told the true story of his game." http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2010/05/euroleague-jan-vesely-impresses-in.html The Beverley effect.
Now you're really reaching. He played great D on a 19 yo Rubio in Euroleague. Thus he must be a good defensive player.
Did it more than just on Rubio. Euroleague Final Four Preview May 5, 2010 There are not many 21-year-old players seeing significant rotation minutes at this level of European basketball--and surely none of them are American. Miami Heat 2009 draftee Patrick Beverley is doing just that, though, playing an important role as an energizer and defensive stopper off the bench for a very good Olympiacos team. He's extremely efficient inside the arc, contributes as a rebounder and is a pace-changer with the pressure he's able to put on the ball defensively. From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2Sgv7MCkr http://www.draftexpress.com
Come on- I can post a number of videos of Terrence Williams showing how amazing his skills are and it doesn't mean that it shows that he is an All-Star. I never said Beverley doesn't make big plays. He gets big steals and blocks at times bc he gambles a lot on D. It's the same reason the dude can pick up 3 fouls in the time it takes me to get a beer in Toyota Center. Not the sign of a good defender in my opinion.
"McHale said Lin’s defense against Minnesota point guard Ricky Rubio and his intensity were as important to the Rockets as Harden’s 37 points." http://blog.chron.com/randyharvey/2013/03/jeremy-lin-comes-through-in-rockets-victory/ So now you're gonna tell me that Jeremy Lin is a great defensive player too b/c he was able to shut down Rubio as a pro...
I'm telling you this myth seems to pervade Europe as well since he seems to be serving as the role of a defensive stopper everywhere he goes.
I'm a fan of both Lin and Beverly. Bev is a very good defender, active and energetic. As Lin's offensive game, Bev's defense has still room for improvement such as help defense. As I compare Lin with Nash/Parker etc. at early career stage with same amount of NBA experience and see great upside for Lin, I say Tony Allen back then was not better than Beverly. So, I'm glad we have both Lin and Beverly who complement each other well as the starter/reserve combo on PG position.
Beverley is a very good defender against guards who aren't that well built physically, he has exceptional lateral movement and very high motor. I think his weakness is going up against stronger and larger point guards because it takes almost double the effort and strength to effectively cover them, and his in your face style usually gets overpowered anyway by the stronger PGs. Lin, on the other hand gets overwhelmed by fast and cat quick guards, which Beverly can usually stand toe to toe with. Another thing is that the all time great defenders like Pippen, Battier, and even Rodman were very smart defenders. They don't just rely on energy and hustle but anticipation, reading of movements, and pushing the offensive player to be in uncomfortable spots. Beverley does not yet have this, maybe in time he will learn.
So basically you start a thread stating a conclusion based on a few plays that happened in a 3 game sample, and now you're accusing other people of only showing a few highlights? Ah, got to love hypocrisy.
All i know is if someone is trying to argue that Bev is not a good defender then that person has an obvious bias.
I think that Bev is an excellent defender. I also think that Lin is an excellent defender as well. They go about their business in different ways. Bev has an attitude, a flair, and a highly deceptive (due to his size) athleticism and reach to get in people's faces, block shots, rebound, and on top of it all really get under people's skin. Lin is a great positional defender and help defender who gets steals without fouling (and timely blocks and rebounds as well). Having both is a great luxury defensively.
Bev. got a smaller sample size than Lin's last year. But everyone expects he can keep the defense intensity and consistency to the coming year.
The idea that you can evaluate a Rockets player by watching the Memphis-OKC series is ridiculous. OP is trolling or just not sharp.
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