I tend to agree with the concept that over half of the home schooled children are either truants or being taught at home for religious reasons. However, I do know several brilliant children that were home schooled (although they were supplemented with high paid tutors) and went on to attend college at Harvard and now are college professors. One is a very good friend of mine, extremely well educated, a very good person, but went through a rebellious phase in her 20's (screwed everything that walked) and still has some issues with understanding some social situations. I may end up home schooling my children in part, mostly because of the lack of an elite Prep school in the area. However, we will be hiring personal tutors.
^^^This. Homeschooling has allowed gifted students to flourish, where they may have been held back or placed in special ed in the past. Truants will end up filling low labor low wage jobs and might scrape by in our globalized economy but the religious home schoolers.... ugh I mean Chik-Fil-a can only higher so many people. Tim Tebow was home schooled and he's basically unemployable now.
I'm amused how easilly and thoughtlessly these two categories are lumped together... what do they have to do with one another... other than home-schooling in common?
If you need someone to come in and teach "The Ethics of Private Property," I'm available in the summer months only.
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I know alllottttttt of people young and old who have been home school and my personal evaluation of them is that they are way smarter than public school taught kids
do you have overall statistics of home educated kids compared to public school educated kids in areas such as SAT(ACT), college admissions, future income levels? I would be interested to see these data.
Not thoughtlessly lumped together. My experience has been that truents and those home schooled for religious regions have not been well educated. I had an attorney I hired at my firm that later admitted he had virtually no knowledge of science, was not aware of basic teachings about evolution, biology or culture.... but he knew the Bible inside and out.
Nonsense, I am a professor at a large university. Home schoolers are generally a "cut above." They have been some of my best students through the years. They are generally the children of professional, well educated parents who see the public school system as a failure (which it is). We spend more money and get lower outcomes that any public school system in the world. It is a total train wreck with few exceptions.
First part true, last part wrong. Public school failure is just a bi-product of crappy housing policies that permanently segregated race and class, and ironically enough became the only saving grace for minorities and immigrants in this country.
Thanks for thinking of me. Busier than usual at work. I think the thread is a good example of the wisdom of crowds. I can' t hardly think of an argument or line of thought about homeschooling not expressed. I think the real issues are: 1) what percentage of kids are very ill served by homeschooling for whatever the many resons? Is it high like 50% and thus numbering a couple million or something? 2) if so than this is a problem for American just like if we were to raise say 10% more illiterates than most other societies. 3) even if the academic achievement is equal if homeschoolers have some of the attitudes raised by False. such as: the world is 6000 years old; sharia is the only law that matters; white people are the master race; global warming doesn't exist; (virtually) any form of government is tyranny (and needs to be resisted by your "2nd Amendment Rights"); animals need to be liberated with lethal force. I would add the Bible should be the supreme law of the land and not the constitution or man made laws etc. Traditionally we have always viewed the public school system as a institution that helped cement a sense of citizenship or a common cultural heritage and values among diverse folks. Interestingly some of the conservatives defending even relatively narrow religious based home schooling raise the arguments that immigrants don't have American values or a common cultural heritage and decry religious based education in other countries.
1) What percentage of kids are ill served by public schools for whatever the many reasons? Is it high like 50% and thus numbering in the millions? 2) If so, then this is a problem for America just like if we were to raise say 10+% more illiterates than most other societies. 3) Not sure I can parse what you are trying to say in your item 3. Public school?
Glynch sounds a lot like the extreme wingnuts he's describing, just on the other side of the fence. Glynch's religious wingnut conservatives: Public schooling is chock full of liberal indoctrination. Won't someone please think of the children! Glynch: Home schooling is chock full of religious wingnut conservative indoctrination. Won't someone please think of the children! Everyone else knows what's best for the children!!
Didn't know there were diverse viewpoints to personal property rights; now I know why you think we should have just let my wife's camera go.... :grin:
Yes and as a professor you only get the ones that seek secondary educations. You do not get the J. Witnesses etc.
Not saying I agree, but for argument's sake why does any of this even matter? Is it going to affect the lives of anyone else? Probably not.
Also, what is the name of this book you read? Who is the author? It is odd that you didn't mention it in your original post.
