I'm pretty sure he thinks what you type here is crap also. I agree/disagree with some points that both you two make however what he posted here on this thread is reasonable and I actually agree with it.
If you don't understand that wishing for an old man to live in fear for the rest of his life because of a cartoon, automatically suspecting that a woman that was raped must be lying, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. is crap, then either you haven't read that stuff (and therefore simply should remain quiet) or you have reading comprehension issues.
That's word for word exactly what I've been saying to you guys this whole time. Incredible that you seem to at least loosely grasp the idea of not treating other people any lower yet consistently vote the way you do. FYI I do not by any stretch of the imagination ignore the regressive traits of what you call my "region's culture". This seems to be something you've invented in your head, since I hate the entire concept of culture. Despise it. I see it as a disease which we need to shake like a bad case of fleas. Sorry I don't fit into your stereotype easily, maybe you can try throwing another stereotype my way? As for talking down, yes I am certainly 100% talking down to the idea that this topic merits anything other than a click of the 'Back' arrow. My total lack of respect for this topic has nothing to do with talking down to people, and has everything to do with talking down an idea. This is a stupid topic because it is neither important what Dodson's sexuality is, nor does it add any credence to claims of whether homosexuality is genetic or not. It creates a meaningless rift between citizens of the same country - while that's financially awesome for the media outlet, it is socially detrimental for the citizenry. This is not something that even a flag-worshipping American would deny is a at least a useless, but most likely a bad thing.
You agreeing with him doesn't make him exactly right. You have been guilty of talking down to him also and speaking lowly of his culture/country. Its a two way street.
Ok, but what are your thoughts on lesbianity? Do you think it's acquired due to psychosomatic reasons?
1) He is coming to an American website, constantly spreading anti-American, Islamist ideology (then lying and claiming he doesn't like organized religion, lol). It's not like we are searching out websites from the Arab region to go there and talk down to them. So your attempt at equating the two things is flawed from the start. 2) The ideology he tries to spread here is inferior, and wrong. I will continue to point out that putting women into mobile jails and oppressing them in general, sanctioning homosexuality with the death penalty, wanting to see an old man live in fear for the rest of his life because of a cartoon, burning embassies because of cartoons, not understanding the concept of freedom of speech, killing people because they believe in something different are all symptoms of an inferior ideology of intolerance and hate that needs to be criticized and prevented from spreading further. So your "two way street" thing is stupid. It is not being "guilty" of pointing these things out, it's exposing him for the fraud that he is when he comes here and thinks he can talk down to Americans on an American website and spread his hate.
while I'm flattered to be compared to anyone, I can honestly maintain I don't know who the hell that is. but if that guy pissed you all off, swell.
Doesn't really matter if it's the same attention-whoring idiot or two different attention-whoring idiots.
As usual, SamFisher is way off. No clue how he pieced that together -- they are night and day different. The only commonality is that they're both Canadian.
I can honestly maintain that I have no idea what I've done to warrant you running through threads and personally insulting me, but if I am an attention w**** as you put it, way to provide me attention. anyways, I grow tired of your substance-less ad hominum attacks. you're not even trying to disguise them in any form of debate whatsoever, which would take a minimum of effort. Lacking. see you around, ATW!
Let's say for the sake of argument you like some sort of lewd sex act. Let's say you're into the Anne Hathaway style of sex, or you like S&M, or you like to dress up as a cop, or a fireman, or Batman. Is that a choice or a desire? Can you temper that? Can you rid yourself of that desire? Would you even want to? I see how a person has sex in the same light as who they have sex with. It's a choice based on what you like. So what if it's a choice, I choose to eat burgers and hate vegetarian food. Sure, I could eat better, but I don't want to. Part of it's choice, and part of it's desire, but all of it is completely that person's life and not ours to judge.
For the record, he can talk down to my culture, country, beliefs whatever. I'd rather everyone is openly critical than everyone is politely silent. Also I (and my fellow citizens) have no hand in how my country/culture is, so I don't really take any responsibility for it - I'm just legally limited to a certain amount of criticism about certain things and don't wish to take that legal risk for the purposes of a message board. I'm on here being critical of US foreign policy, which is a position that many Americans take and it is a traditional position to take despite the extermination of the left in recent decades. I'm comfortable with that. I haven't said anything about the Iraq war that a few million people who protested it didn't say themselves. I haven't said anything about Afghanistan that people who have served there haven't said themselves. I haven't said anything about American foreign policy that people from far left and far right haven't said > and with relatively popular support. Regarding a foreigner coming to an American board to be critical of US foreign policy - again, whatever. This is the internet, and I don't treat people differently just because of their nationality anyway. Why on earth would I say this stuff to anyone else? I'm saying it to the people who can effect change and I argue for their freedoms to be expanded all the time. I'm used to it though. In Turkey and Iran, I'm the American. In the UAE I'm the Iranian. In the US, I'm the middle easterner. Round and round, mix and match. Doesn't faze me. If anything, knowing that the xenophobes can't align my criticisms with a single ideology tells me I'm on the right path. I'm not a certain race, not a certain religion, not a certain nationality, not a certain political affiliation. This frustrates a lot of people because it challenges them to come up with tailored criticism rather than refer to the stereotype handbook they've consciously or subconsciously saved in their heads to pull out when it's time to argue with someone.
God made you gay (by choice, of course!) as an example to not be gay. Now slice your weenie and throw some fabulous parties. Because that's what God really wants. Agree. MacBeth was verbose and at least studied in English/Lit. while making sure you knew it. NS's distinction is his knowledge in econ...something MacBeth rarely showed talent in, and their prose and personality are different. Just because both post in the DnD, are Canadian and are punchy members, doesn't mean squat.
I wasn't going to participate in this thread but this seems like a very convenient excuse. While I have no doubt that you live in a place where your speech and political freedom is limited you seem to be using that as cover to bash America. You are saying that absolves you from any responsibility regarding the state of your country and region and instead just blame the US and others. As I've said before that just seems like a very convenient excuse for an attitude of victimhood. IE, I can't change anything about my own country and am too afraid to speak out about it but I will go ahead and bash others for the problems that I see at home and around the world. I can understand your freedom of speech is limited but frankly this strikes me as venal and intellectually dishonest to feel that since you can't criticize your own country instead to go and criticize others. Except you do treat people differently because of nationality. You've frequently blamed Americans for their votes and seem to take the attitude that because Americans have the freedom to have a say in their politics that it is our responsibility to affect change. I agree with you on that BTW but that is hardly a principled position to take when you are unwilling to do so yourself.
