CP3 May not resign [Bill Simmons tweet so grain of salt needed]

Yeah, that's more consistent with what I saw. I must have misread or misinterpreted. At any rate, it's part if his game he's improving, maybe to play more pick and pop. Although I'd personally prefer him to get the ball down low where he is very effective, "no post moves" or not.

 

Its obvious Vinny didnt think so, so he decided Blake was better off trying to create his own shot from 15 feet out on in..which is stupid of him

Also Blake and Jordan need to work extremely hard on their games this summer and they need to show some marked improvement, IMO they don't compliment each other well at all.

 

So, if by some chance CP doesn't return to the Clippers, how many games do you think that team wins?

 

He is obviously a clippers fan ,you can tell by his board name. I also don't know were he is getting his stat % . From what I read , Harden is a better efficient player and not to mention harden is in the top 3 in his position
1 K. Bryant
2 J. Harden
3 D. Wade
4 M. Ellis
5 T. Evans
6 J. Smith
7 D. DeRozan
8 O. Mayo
9 G. Henderson
10 J. Redick
11 A. Afflalo
12 K. Thompson
13 M. Ginobili
14 J. Johnson
15 W. Matthews
16 L. Williams
17 B. Beal
18 J. Crawford
19 K. Martin
20 E. Gordon
21 J. Dudley
22 D. Green
23 J. Crawford
24 T. Sefolosha
25 L. Stephenson

While Blake even though good I would take plenty of pf over him just look here are the pf you have to choose from would he be your number one option
1 T. Duncan
2 D. Lee
3 L. Aldridge
4 B. Griffin
5 K. Love
6 J. Smith
7 D. West
8 Z. Randolph
9 T. Harris
10 C. Boozer
11 D. Nowitzki
12 P. Gasol
13 S. Ibaka
14 T. Young
15 A. Davis
16 P. Millsap
17 K. Faried
18 T. Thompson
19 A. Johnson
20 E. Ilyasova
21 G. Davis
22 R. Anderson
23 Nene
24 L. Scola
25 A. Stoudemire

 

Dwight is staying in LA and I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron heads there after he opts out next summer.

 

Depends man, they have alot of things to consider as far as the roster is concerned. Some of those guys are out of contract or will be moving on for new deals. If it was just Bledsoe running the point, they would've been in big time trouble... Vinny basically said his "offense is Chris Paul, and they can do it better than we can" which tells me he never had a clue from the beginning.

 

So Paul would stay in LA to be with a core of a 33 year old Jamal Crawford. What a freakin joke. If you want to say Paul will stay there because of any reason beside LA would be a better team then Houston fine. But otherwise no...

PG Paul
SG harden
Sf parsons
Pf which ever the rockets decide is best
C Asik

Is simply better then LA. In fact it would be debatable who would have the better record next year if the teams stay the same. Houston should improve quite a lot because every single player is young and would be into the second year of starting with a full training camp. So you take that and ad Chris Paul and the rockets would not have the potential to be better then the clippers??? Don't think so the rockets would clearly be better, sorry to burst your bubble clippy.

 

Well duh, if it was Paul + Jamal Crawford + nothing, that would be a pretty ****ty team. Obviously the most important piece is Griffin, who's as legitimate of a sidekick as there is, and IMO a much better match than another ball-dominant guard like Harden.

But you also left off the part I said about a third main player they can get in the offseason. Most likely the Clippers will trade Bledsoe this offseason, which to me is unfortunate because he's probably their second-best guard and primed to be a big time player in the league, but under Vinny he barely plays. So they can offer a package of something like Bledsoe + Butler ($8M expiring) for any number of decent wing options, eg Afflalo, Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer, etc. Or they could try to form a package around Bledsoe + DJ + picks to upgrade the center position, eg. Gortat, Al Jefferson, and so forth.

Then they resign Barnes & Green, probably keep Billups as a backup for another year if he doesn't retire, and bring back a team that is considerably better than the one from this year, which won 56 games. And this isn't even factoring in a better coach.

I'm sorry, I just think that's better than what the Rockets can offer (and I have no idea how exactly the Rockets get Paul anyway since they have to somehow find a taker for Lin's overpriced contract + more to clear up the space). AFAIK Houston isn't even on the radar as teams with caproom like Atlanta and Utah are really more realistic options.

 

The Rockets can easily get enough cap space to sign Paul. All they have to do is decline all their team options and a trade a rookie or two for picks.

 

The fact that you, a Clippers fan, refer to Blake Griffin as a sidekick says enough. His defense is average. Players don't have trouble scoring on him, and his team defense is nothing special. He was shut down in his last two losses against the Grizz scoring a total of 13 points and grabbing a total of 8 rebounds. He didn't block any shots in the last three games and he was turnover and foul prone the entire series. All he can do on offense is dunk. When was the last time you saw a game winning dunk in the playoffs?

He can't grab 2 rebounds as a starting PF with all that athleticism and be considered a legit sidekick. He's a 4th option at best. Z-Bo beasted on him.

 

The Rockets don't need to move any of their larger contracts (Harden, Lin and Asik) in order to get sufficient room to offer the max that they can offer (i.e. $18.67M or so starting salary) to Chris Paul.

By letting just Delfino (nonguaranteed contract) and Garcia (team option) go, the team would be at roughly $43.M-43.5M total salary for 12 guys depending on where the salary cap for next year is set-- $43M if the cap remains at $58.044M as it is this year, $43.5M if the cap increases to $60M, where it is anticipated to go according to cap expert Larry Coon.

So, we'd be looking at $16.5M in cap room already. What they'd likely do to get to Chris Paul's max would be dumping Thomas Robinson.

 

Flake Griffin is the biggest JOKE in the league! Yeah, he can jump high. But what else does he do except for make funny commercials. He cant rebound, defend, shoot, or dribble. He's pretty good at getting his ass kicked by ZBo though. CP3 will probably stay in LA. Which is fine with me because he's not gonna carry a team to the finals anyway. I dont think hes ever even been past the 2nd round. So I'll take my chances with Harden as our best backcourt player.

If all the rockets do is sign/acquire a legit PF (JSmith, DWest, Millsap, Pau) theyll be better than the Flop City Clips! But My guess is Dwight is coming to join the beard, along with a solid PF, whoever that may be. We'll win around 60 games and the Clips we'll get out-toughed by another team in the playoffs.

BTW, Harden throwing lobs to Smoove and DH will make everyone forget about Flop City's dunks!!

 

Blake IS a sidekick on a team with CP3, who is one of the best players in the NBA. Just like Harden was a sidekick on a team with Durant & Westbrook. No shame in that.

Did you even watch the Grizz series? Griffin had a high ankle sprain and barely even played in the last two games. "All he can do on offense is dunk"? This is how I know you only watch SportsCenter to learn about players not on your team. Griffin gets like 1 or 2 dunks a game. Where do the rest of the points come from.

PER is an objective stat that factors in everything, including pace, and since Griffin has been in the league he's always been in the top 15. That's how you can objectively rate a player instead of just looking at box scores and SportsCenter. The guy puts up good stats on a winning team. He's young and has a lot of upside. What's not to like?

I'm pretty disappointed in the level of basketball knowledge on this forum. Not even going to address the guy above who clearly knows nothing about the game.

 

Thanks for the clarification. That's pretty impressive work by your GM that they could keep four big contracts on the books. I assume Asik/Lin must have some special provisions to avoid the cap here because something doesn't add up otherwise.

 

Haha! I assume your talking about me, clippy... Saying I know nothing about basketball... Lol

1st off, if you're gonna call someone out, call me out!!

I watched a lot of clipper games this year and last because so many of their games are nationally televised. Griffins got some potential, but through his 1st 3 seasons he hasn't improved at all. That's got to worry you clip fans. He's shown flashes of a decent post game. But more often than not he telagraphs his moves and the defender beats him to the spot which results in either a TO or a badly missed shot. If the clips are ever gonna be legit contenders, they'll have to get someone else to star alongside BG and CP, and they gotta lose the fake tough guy mentality. Chris Paul is one of my least favorite players because of his rediculous flops. Flopping is one thing, but he plays an overall cheap style of basketball which makes refs not respect him once the playoffs start (even though a lot of them still fall for his tricks). In my opinion, you can't try to act all tough like CP does and the catapult yourself to the ground when someone passes by you.

The Clippers are a good team that won't be getting any better unless two things happen:
Get rid of VDN...
Blake decides to actually improve and learn how to consistently score without just dunking.

That's why I feel like Houston is poised to pass right by LAC next year.

 

chris paul or kevin love no josh smith at least not for max money...pretty sure love will be traded next season

 

Asik and Lin are only a tad over 8m each, hardly big contract by any stretch.

 

Carl knows what he's talking about.

Also remember that Luis Scola was amnestied. Lin and Asik aren't that much and next year Harden will be the only guy getting over 10+ million I think.

 

I think that if the Clippers are losing Paul, they would probably accept a sign and trade where they get Lin back. Bledsoe did not look like he's ready to be a starter. Lin has huge marketing appeal in a big market. They have no shot at cap space in the near future, so they would probably like to get their hands on a solid PG on a decent contract.

I also think the Lakers would love to get Asik if Howard decides to sign with the Rockets. Then again, I would rather not trade with the Lakers since Asik is a hot commodity and any number of teams would love to take him off our hands.

 

What do you mean they have no shot at cap space? Griffin is the only long contract. DJ is two years and everyone else is either a small contract or expiring. If the Clippers lose Paul, they can sign a big name free agent like Iguadola, Howard, or Bynum. They wouldn't sign Lin LOL. But this is really all pipe because Paul isn't going anywhere. It just doesn't make any sense.